Game Mechanics: Cordelia Minster (North Karana)

[Gorroth]

The 3 high level bards in Highhold Keep also cast; high-level spells, including mez and charm mind you, making them impossible to kill as a solo or duo when they were actually decent exp on live.

[nilbog]

Can anyone provide me a date for when bard npcs started casting? Links or patch notes.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone provide me a date for when bard npcs started casting? Links or patch notes.

I can search for this, but I honestly have no clue, they never did while I played.

[jettoki]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone provide me a date for when bard npcs started casting? Links or patch notes.

Closest thing I could find is a thread from 2004 on the official forums confirming that there are no bard mobs in the game. http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/po...topic_id=54088

I played a Necromancer in 2001 and killed mostly bards from 16-34. I can confirm that they never once used a bard song, even though they always dropped instruments. I killed so many that I got warmly faction in Mistmoore. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Phallax]

Good finds, I couldnt dig up anything in any patch history provided by Allakhazam.

[Jify]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone provide me a date for when bard npcs started casting? Links or patch notes.

I thought we made bards cast because they should have in classic? I guess that's not true to classic then.. but ya... Bard NPCs were just warriors with caster HP.

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[Atern]

Couple things I've noticed...

Isabella Cellus is supposed to wander the halls, stopping periodically. Her path takes her through the room with the 2 nobles.

Storm Dragonchaser and Star DreamSpinner are doing some whacked out stuff. I'm not quite sure what, but it looks like that are essentially dispelling my pet. Even with a fully buffed and focused 49 earth pet, after about 5 seconds it's gone. They should be casting spells, but not dispelling pets.

The most recent experience i've had with these NPCs outside of P99 is the EQMac server Al'Kabor. The above is how these NPCs act on Al'Kabor, which has all expansions up to PoP.

[Itchybottom]

To my knowledge, bards have never sung songs on live period. With the exception of Maestro, who casted, not sang his deadly lifetap. None of the classic bards did, that's for sure. Even during PoP, not as much as a peep from the bards I killed. They had really low HP, not so great resists, and usually only punched making them a tad less dangerous than similar level NPC. I loved kiting them on my druid, and later on my wizard twink because they were easy targets, and usually fast repop (due to the Going Postal quest) with the exception of Travis Two Tone, which was a 20 minute re-pop (There was a bard in the Barbarian village in West Karana, that made a good replacement, as well as the bard in Rivervale.)

NPC bards can't sing songs

[JackFlash]

I just dinged 29 on my wiz and went to solo Vhalen. On live I used him to solo up to 40ish. I do not remember him casting anything ever.

The way he is now I can't even get past his charm song. I'll see if I can dig up any info but I used him to level my wizard during kunark and maybe even into velious.

http://web.archive.org/web/200112250....shtml?id=3323

Faction with Bards/Vhalen By: Faern
Posted @ Sun, Aug 6th 8:57 AM 2000 Score: Decent[2.50]
1) Killing WK Bandits does NOT raise faction with bards.
2) 3 Kills of Vhalen and I am KOS to Bards everywhere. (Quite a Pain)
3) His spawn rate is 6 minutes.
4) His Loc is closer to -200, -200.
5) I reiterate, the faction hits and repercussions are HORRENDOUS.

[JackFlash]

I looked through the entire patch history and can't find anything about changing bards to cast. I killed Vhalen many many times on live and he never casted.

I also never remember being casted on by other bards that would agro me in various cities. Maybe bard NPC's didn't ever sing songs?