Trakanon Rotation

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so in your mind VD are assholes for not voluntarily refusing to kill raid mobs despite not being raid suspended? And it never occurred to you that IB got suspended because Perun ninjalooted an epic item, while VD did not get suspended because none of our members ninja looted an epic piece?

Simply put as an actual member of VD I can tell you that IB/VD were never one guild the way you guys are making it out to be. We worked together when we needed each other, did not when we did not, made some friends and had fun but there was definitely some friction too.

I think the point is he trying to make is that using a joint raid force means each guild that is jointly raiding together should be held accountable for the actions of the other guild during the raid even if they don't share the same guild tag. Keep mind of the company you keep.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the point is he trying to make is that using a joint raid force means each guild that is jointly raiding together should be held accountable for the actions of the other guild during the raid even if they don't share the same guild tag. Keep mind of the company you keep.

That's what I say everytime someone says "Not every member in TMO is a complete utter shitbag, there are a couple of nice people there."

We jointly raided with IB on some targets and divided the loot. We never considered combining guilds because we had such different values. Divinity and Taken and maybe even BDA have raided together before, that does not mean that they should combine guilds. It also means that if some guy in Taken is caught for hacking the server that Divinity isn't guilty and should also be suspended when they had no knowledge of the hacker in the other guild. How can VD be responsible for perun taking it upon himself to hold loot ransom. We did not condone his behavior or make him an officer of our guild.

[Rais]

lol

I'll quit playing if VP goes FTE no trains no other bullshit, Trak goes on a Rotation with 1 hr window between TMO, VD, and a 3rd slot. Once the one hour window opens, its FFA,and if it was that guilds trak they lost out on, they lose out.

Confirmed Bisch will retire if the above or damn near close to those demands are met.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol

I'll quit playing if VP goes FTE no trains no other bullshit, Trak goes on a Rotation with 1 hr window between TMO, VD, and a 3rd slot. Once the one hour window opens, its FFA,and if it was that guilds trak they lost out on, they lose out.

Confirmed Bisch will retire if the above or damn near close to those demands are met.

Bisch, you should have left yourself an out. Now you're damned to play this server forever.

[Estrang]

you made your own bed time to lay in it

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can VD be responsible for perun taking it upon himself to hold loot ransom. We did not condone his behavior or make him an officer of our guild.

If you read the responses to the suspensions of several weeks ago, you will find that quite a few people from TMO believe Perun's actions should have resulted in an individual perma-ban and not a guild raid suspension. If that had been the punishment meted out, no one would expect that to apply to the co-raiding guild; however, the punishment dealt was raid suspensions, which logically should apply to any co-raiding guilds.

That's neither here nor there. What happened, happened. Time to move on.

[YendorLootmonkey]

I will say that Xasten and Ele have been very well-spoken and rational in this thread, and I respect that.