Trakanon Rotation

[Lanuven]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a notoriously COMPETITIVE pve game. you are right in that VP is an entirely different animal insofar as that training and griefing were allowed, and as such, VP is not an acceptable zone to use as an example of comparison, because as u said, the rule set is unique in that single zone. but in the rest of the world, the rules still apply. and i never once suggested pvp, so i dunno where that comment of yours originated from.

but lets stick to Trak as the thread is titled, you say you will answer grief with grief and competition with competition. but in regards to trak, it sounds like (at least to me) some people want to respond to competition by not competing and instead just having mobs handed to them.

and my point is that there's no challenge in the actual killing of mobs. it's the other rival guilds that make the encounter challenging.

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Being handed a mob is very different from being allowed to have a chance to kill it. This game is old and allot of people here have already done this before on live. id say other than VD and TMO , all the other guilds on teh server do not want to, or will not poopsock trak. How are guilds that could possibly be able to kill him, that dont want to sit on ledge for 3 days just to get involved in the FTE, gm log reading, handing out loot based on her decision, ever gonna get a shot ? Why not let those guilds have a chance when its their turn and if they fail, they fail.

No ones asking for handouts, just a legitimate attempt. We are not our former 13 year old eqlive versions of ourselfs and have jobs and families to take care of now, rather than be on dragon watch for 24 hours a day. Those guilds who already have and are killing said targets should not be so greedy and make the server as a whole, fun for everyone.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being handed a mob is very different from being allowed to have a chance to kill it.

with all due respect, if killing the mob is not a sure thing, meaning that there is only a chance that a guild can actually down the mob, then that guild doesn't deserve or warrant a rotation for that mob.

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How are guilds that could possibly be able to kill him, that dont want to sit on ledge for 3 days just to get involved in the FTE, gm log reading, handing out loot based on her decision, ever gonna get a shot ? Why not let those guilds have a chance when its their turn and if they fail, they fail.

those guilds get a shot the same way that TMO got a shot when IB was running the end game scene. you get a bunch of determined members and you just do it a couple times. you will get some, they will get some. and thats it. Every guild DOES have a chance, but having a chance doesn't mean getting the mob handed to u on a silver platter.

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No ones asking for handouts, just a legitimate attempt. We are not our former 13 year old eqlive versions of ourselfs and have jobs and families to take care of now, rather than be on dragon watch for 24 hours a day. Those guilds who already have and are killing said targets should not be so greedy and make the server as a whole, fun for everyone.

you have to EARN your legitimate attempt, or its a handout, regardless of how u sugar coat it. nobody here is their former 13 year ago self, and yet dragons and gods still get downed and have been getting downed for quite some time.
Some players will always have more free time than other players, and EQ has always rewarded players that put in the most time/work on their character. i feel the entire rotation argument to be from the same trash arguments that ruined mmos with instanced zones, safe zones, easy travel etc.

just my 2cp

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

those guilds get a shot the same way that TMO got a shot when IB was running the end game scene. you get a bunch of determined members and you just do it a couple times. you will get some, they will get some. and thats it. Every guild DOES have a chance, but having a chance doesn't mean getting the mob handed to u on a silver platter.

^^^^^^

Careful Sirken you might be accused of being a TMO member, you are making sense and saying what we've said in the past

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Xanthias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^^^^

Careful Sirken you might be accused of being a TMO member, you are making sense and saying what we've said in the past

meh. i've been called worse things [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[CallnOutTheNubs]

End game raid scene on p99 blue is so childish no wonder this servers losing people.

Abunch of whiny bitches crying about 12year old content get a fucking life.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i feel the entire rotation argument to be from the same trash arguments that ruined mmos with instanced zones, safe zones, easy travel etc.

just my 2cp

A man after my own heart!

Competition in EQ puts the "C" in "Classic".

[Maze513]

come and compete with TMO in VP, no trains, no memblur, FTE rules. Whoever gets the pull gets the mob.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Maze513 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

come and compete with TMO in VP, no trains, no memblur, FTE rules. Whoever gets the pull gets the mob.

Once we see it in writing from Zeelot, we'll believe it. But this thread was about setting up a Trak rotation between TMO, VD, and BDA/Div/Taken. Hell, even if you wanted to do TMO and BDA/Div/Taken, and VD competes against TMO on their turn.

[Cyrano]

those guilds get a shot the same way that TMO got a shot when IB was running the end game scene. you get a bunch of determined members and you just do it a couple times. you will get some, they will get some. and thats it. Every guild DOES have a chance, but having a chance doesn't mean getting the mob handed to u on a silver platter.

You mean use the old first 15 on spawn get camp rule? Or do you mean the one where you have an SK FD near the mob with a pet sitting on spawn point and then claim FTE?

IB is certainly guilty of escalating matters in the raid scene but DA/TMO are the OGs when it comes to rule lawyering. If that's your definition of determined I guess we have little to talk about.