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Old 02-23-2012, 11:57 AM
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At least Uthgaard was spot on and would ban people and take action right away
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:58 AM
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At least Uthgaard was spot on and would ban people and take action right away
Yeah, Uth was quick to ban and just as quick to correct injustices.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:01 PM
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:19 PM
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Yeah, Uth was quick to ban and just as quick to correct injustices.
This.

There are lots of tears being shed and tinfoil hats being worn ITT. The fact is that a GM made a judgement, then later when presented with more evidence through petitions decided that their judgement was incorrect. These tears and conspiracy claims are from either butthurt IB pretending to be victims, or from people in <random guild> who don't really know what's going on anyway.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:03 PM
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I'm curious, it seems that some are suggesting that no appeals process should exist. Should this really be the case? Just allow for a moment, the possibility, that there was an error, should correction be disallowed?

As an aside, there are those of us who think that neither guild deserved suspension, and that any punishments should have been on an individual level.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:08 PM
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I'm curious, it seems that some are suggesting that no appeals process should exist. Should this really be the case? Just allow for a moment, the possibility, that there was an error, should correction be disallowed?

As an aside, there are those of us who think that neither guild deserved suspension, and that any punishments should have been on an individual level.
Look if you hand down 1 week suspension on raiding the least you can do is ride it out. To lift it 2 days early is stupid regardless of the merits of the original ban, because now everyone knows what the top guilds have known for awhile - there are no reprocussions for being anti-social on this server - especially if you do it as a group.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:13 PM
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Look if you hand down 1 week suspension on raiding the least you can do is ride it out. To lift it 2 days early is stupid regardless of the merits of the original ban, because now everyone knows what the top guilds have known for awhile - there are no repercussions for being anti-social on this server - especially if you do it as a group.
"regardless of the merits of the original ban"

That looks like a complete absolute. Do you suggest that a clearly erroneous punishment should stand even if a party is exonerated simply to send a message? It seems to me that would send a different message entirely.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:21 PM
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10 raid petitions against TMO that would get them suspended were ignored for months.

Our leader has been patiently waiting for justice that has never come about because GMs ignored the petitions.

All those petitions were thrown out when Amelinda had her cute coming to jesus moment and decided to suspend TMO and IB for a week as some kind of punishment. Laughable justice but at least action was finally taken.

The petitions were not even looked at. What recourse do the law abiding citizens of the server have if the cheating bullies of the server get away with murder for months without a well documented petition being looked at.

And here they are able to weesel out of a suspension early with RNF whining and facebook spamming.

This server is on the brink of losing the highly honorable players because the bully trolls reign supreme.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:24 PM
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This server is on the brink of losing the highly honorable players because the bully trolls reign supreme.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:28 PM
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And here they are able to weesel out of a suspension early with RNF whining and facebook spamming.
If you want to make things up to make yourself feel better and dry those tears, go right ahead.

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