Patch Notes, Wednesday May 5th, 2010

[Spirell]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Currently ALL worn off messages are OFF. I think this was vanilla classic. Cant remember when actual worn off msgs were added, but worn off upon death I never remember so that needs to stay that way eithe rway...whadda ya say

I am around 90% sure that there were some worn off messages in classic out of the box. I remember as a bard getting the worn off messages when an enchanter overwrote my mez in Kunark for sure, but I am pretty sure I used to get snare and lull worn off messages before that. The reason for the 10% unsure is I can't remember if the times in original EQ were from when progression server opened or not, but I am 100% sure they used to happen when I was in Karnor's Castle for the first time ever.

[BuzWeaver]

Originally Posted by Spirell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am around 90% sure that there were some worn off messages in classic out of the box. I remember as a bard getting the worn off messages when an enchanter overwrote my mez in Kunark for sure, but I am pretty sure I used to get snare and lull worn off messages before that. The reason for the 10% unsure is I can't remember if the times in original EQ were from when progression server opened or not, but I am 100% sure they used to happen when I was in Karnor's Castle for the first time ever.

I'm kind of in the same boat, I do recall snare/root wearing off as a Druid, this was how I stayed alive. I can recall having a certain color text to insure that I saw the messages (Snare/Root has worn off). Sadly, I don't recall buff messages, 10 years is a long time to recall such a subtle detail. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Spirell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am around 90% sure that there were some worn off messages in classic out of the box. I remember as a bard getting the worn off messages when an enchanter overwrote my mez in Kunark for sure, but I am pretty sure I used to get snare and lull worn off messages before that. The reason for the 10% unsure is I can't remember if the times in original EQ were from when progression server opened or not, but I am 100% sure they used to happen when I was in Karnor's Castle for the first time ever.

Kunark is far from "out of the box". Classic EQ did not have worn off messages for anything in the begining. If you dot rotted a mob with root. You had to sit there and wait for the mob to start running at you to know that the root wore off. They put the worn off msgs a good time before Kunark but not sure of the exact date, and yes was detrimal only.

[jettoki]

DoT damage per tick messages were implemented alongside a ton of other features like seeing pet buffs, getting messages when they wore off, etc. As a longtime Necro, I consider these features indispensable.

Still, I would argue that if we're tossing those things, we should toss DoT messages too. I don't really have a strong opinion, but it should at least be consistent. And if we're going this hardcore with the classic theme, I'd also argue that we should toss global chat, increase spell scribe times exponentially, allow crafting containers to destroy items, etc. Otherwise, selective feature reverts feel arbitrary and punishing.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by jettoki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DoT damage per tick messages were implemented alongside a ton of other features like seeing pet buffs, getting messages when they wore off, etc. As a longtime Necro, I consider these features indispensable.

Still, I would argue that if we're tossing those things, we should toss DoT messages too. I don't really have a strong opinion, but it should at least be consistent. And if we're going this hardcore with the classic theme, I'd also argue that we should toss global chat, increase spell scribe times exponentially, allow crafting containers to destroy items, etc. Otherwise, selective feature reverts feel arbitrary and punishing.

agree... all or non.

But I think you should leave this type of trivial stuff in.

Buuut, I don't know just how classic your vision is for this server. I only know how classic I and a majority of players would like it to be.