Ragefire Agreement/Rotation

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ doesn't have a magical bubble that prevents other people from contesting stuff. I'm honestly surprised no one outside of IB/TMO came in to contest it.


Also it wasn't a TMO - IB guild based rotation, it was an agreement amongst the clerics with the most time at the camp, just so happens they were from IB/TMO. We randomed for the slots, which people now call a "rotation".

The OP was an attempt to demonstrate that it could be handled peacefully and to seek additional input from the rest of the community regarding how to go forward from here on out. The patch, thankfully, has been implemented so we should be seeing 2-6 ragefires per week instead of the previous 1 per 9 days. I would still like to see something worked out to prevent another FFA click fest.

Look I don't have a problem with how things turned out and I don't see how you got that from my post. As far as I'm concerned, if you put the time in you get the gear. If the whole server had gotten together and made sure Ninik got the first one, I think that would have been pretty awesome . . but we didn't, and that's OK too. I'm purely pointing out the hypocrisy of anyone in IB/TMO bitching about VD taking a Ragefire or two and not giving a spot to Ninik when they did the exact same thing for two months.

Anyway with 3 ragefires per week this problem will disappear fast. In a few months tops every cleric will have one.

[Metallikus]

The hilarious fact is that before IB/TMO was suspended, leadership was approached about the cleric rotation and the information gathered was that Zeelot was not willing to accept a rotation and we were all going to be in for a gigantic clusterfk clickfest. Then boom the hammer is brought down, they get suspensions and can't click for a week...now they want to insert Ninik during the time they cannot be douches about it.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The hilarious fact is that before IB/TMO was suspended, leadership was approached about the cleric rotation and the information gathered was that Zeelot was not willing to accept a rotation and we were all going to be in for a gigantic clusterfk clickfest. Then boom the hammer is brought down, they get suspensions and can't click for a week...now they want to insert Ninik during the time they cannot be douches about it.

i don't care what you've heard or think.

There needs to be a rotation set up immediately or you risk me killing this vendor trigger when he spawns after each naggy. Killing the vendor version of Zordak (afaik) doesn't reset the zordak timer (aka 1 shot at cleric epic per naggy).

Either set up a rotation with Ninik at the beginning or kiss ur cleric epics all goodbye.

[messiah_b]

Despawn all raid targets for 2 months.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't care what you've heard or think.

There needs to be a rotation set up immediately or you risk me killing this vendor trigger when he spawns after each naggy. Killing the vendor version of Zordak (afaik) doesn't reset the zordak timer (aka 1 shot at cleric epic per naggy).

Either set up a rotation with Ninik at the beginning or kiss ur cleric epics all goodbye.

Your intentions are to grief unless you get your way. I swear you violate every PNP rule. You train raids, you fear other groups mobs in an attempt to train them, grief players by killing vendors/epic quest mobs....where does it stop with you?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your intentions are to grief unless you get your way. I swear you violate every PNP rule. You train raids, you fear other groups mobs in an attempt to train them, grief players by killing vendors/epic quest mobs....where does it stop with you?

you have two choices.

Allow ninik her spot and set up a rotation

Do nothing and continue to be dicks to her and in turn get dicked.

Btw, this is to everyone who thinks they are getting an epic before Ninik.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you have two choices.

Allow ninik her spot and set up a rotation

Do nothing and continue to be dicks to her and in turn get dicked.

How are we supposed to set up a fair rotation without all capable parties involved? Doesnt TMO and IB want in the rotation or are u guys going to sit out for a while?

Oh, you only want us to rotate her in on your week off so that your guild can continue to be asshats to the rest of the server when you get back?

How about come up with a long lasting rotation now? We rotate as per your terms stated earlier and follow thru accordingly. I'm sure there as worthy clerics out there as ninik is worthy of an epic. We want what is fair, TMO and IB have a head start on cleric epics, how bout you guys put yourselves last on the rotation? That seem about right?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How are we supposed to set up a fair rotation without all capable parties involved? Doesnt TMO and IB want in the rotation or are u guys going to sit out for a while?

Oh, you only want us to rotate her in on your week off so that your guild can continue to be asshats to the rest of the server when you get back?

How about come up with a long lasting rotation now? We rotate as per your terms stated earlier and follow thru accordingly. I'm sure there as worthy clerics out there as ninik is worthy of an epic. We want what is fair, TMO and IB have a head start on cleric epics, how bout you guys put yourselves last on the rotation? That seem about right?

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

should do this, each guild (TMO, IB, VD, Taken, BDA, DIV) get together and select a cleric representative.

These 6 then decide on other guilds that should be considered and then get their representative.

These reps come together and decide the order of the rotation.

Fair in all sense of the word.

Rules could be simple

You wipe, miss or can't get a kill force in the time frame, you forfeit ur turn to the rotation and then the next guild in line.

all guilds are allowed outside assistance.

Ur stupid cleric epic problem is now solved.

Tech, VD could be considered to have already gone in the rotation, put Div - ninik next, and go from there.

It's not hard.

1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 for all guilds involved.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The hilarious fact is that before IB/TMO was suspended, leadership was approached about the cleric rotation and the information gathered was that Zeelot was not willing to accept a rotation and we were all going to be in for a gigantic clusterfk clickfest. Then boom the hammer is brought down, they get suspensions and can't click for a week...now they want to insert Ninik during the time they cannot be douches about it.

Who is they? It seems like a lot of people in this thread keep committing a fallacy of assigning individual's positions to entire guilds as the official guild positions.