Proposal to the TMO leadership

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does IB and VD refuse to merge?

Why did TMO and DA merge?

See, that goes two ways.

Why is merging the only correct option? Says who? Why are you creating the standard of "Well, you need to merge." Heaven forbid two top-tier guilds can work together without merging. Why is that so impossible for you to understand? Go make a partnership with Taken or BDA. No one is stopping you but yourselves.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why did TMO and DA merge?

See, that goes two ways.

Why is merging the only correct option? Says who? Why are you creating the standard of "Well, you need to merge." Heaven forbid two top-tier guilds can work together without merging. Why is that so impossible for you to understand? Go make a partnership with Taken or BDA. No one is stopping you but yourselves.

I didn't say it was correct or wrong.

I just mentioned it as a way to correct your loot woes.

TMO wanted this

The people with the problem are not us.

Working together, get stuck on the same rotation together.

No one is stopping you from merging but yourselves.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't say it was correct or wrong.

I just mentioned it as a way to correct your loot woes.

TMO wanted this

The people with the problem are not us.

Working together, get stuck on the same rotation together.

No one is stopping you from merging but yourselves.

OK, so this is what you want us to do. Fine. But we aren't going to do that.

What you guys need to consider is the reality of what's going to happen, and that is you are going to get fewer mobs than before when random epic mobs like Cazic and Inny pop with your mains camped out wasting time on the ledge.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK, so this is what you want us to do. Fine. But we aren't going to do that.

What you guys need to consider is the reality of what's going to happen, and that is you are going to get fewer mobs than before when random epic mobs like Cazic and Inny pop with your mains camped out wasting time on the ledge.

Cazic? nah
Inny? maybe.

[Tiggles]

TMO is the best guild on the server and if they say they want those shit bag VD players off the rotation then they go off the rotation.


iB can't do much if they still want to continue grabbing the loot WE LET them have.

The rotation was mostly because we wared to farm loot at our leisure not because we where afraid some over the hill former raiding guild was going to take our dragons

[Autotune]

Also, it's not that we want IB and VD to merge. Most TMO don't even care now that VD is off the rotation (where they should be).


If VD has a problem with it, just say so, don't mask your anger under "TMO will get less loots this way!!! zomg wtf you thinking"

You just sound like a whiny bitch that has to earn their foodstamps.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, it's not that we want IB and VD to merge. Most TMO don't even care now that VD is off the rotation (where they should be).


If VD has a problem with it, just say so, don't mask your anger under "TMO will get less loots this way!!! zomg wtf you thinking"

You just sound like a whiny bitch that has to earn their foodstamps.

Sounds like some serious projection. I'm not masking my anger - Trakanon doesn't drop any enchanter items :P And in fact, there is only 1 really good VP item for us and I refuse to wear the Robe of Azure sky after seeing the look.

I'm saying that you guys are going to get less loot in the current situation. You are already down 1 Trakanon. Now you can say we suck, it wasn't contested, blah blah . . but the point is you guys missed out. And you're going to continue to miss raid targets simply because you can't be everywhere at once. I'm sorry if that cold hard logic upsets you.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like some serious projection. I'm not masking my anger - Trakanon doesn't drop any enchanter items :P And in fact, there is only 1 really good VP item for us and I refuse to wear the Robe of Azure sky after seeing the look.

I'm saying that you guys are going to get less loot in the current situation. You are already down 1 Trakanon. Now you can say we suck, it wasn't contested, blah blah . . but the point is you guys missed out. And you're going to continue to miss raid targets simply because you can't be everywhere at once. I'm sorry if that cold hard logic upsets you.

Yeah, we are down 1 trak, but we will gain another supposedly by VD's math. Looks like it's going to even out or even gain in the long run. We just get to have more fun doing it.

also, your cold hard logic isn't very logical, it's nothing more than speculation.

[quido]

"Nooo, you guys don't wanna do that - you're, um, gonna get less merbs!"


Is VD a dece raiding guild at this point? Yes

Does VD stand around and wait for IB to pull the mobs? Yes

Has VD killed contested mobs without IB? Sort of

Has VD proven themselves? No


Until VD demonstrates that they would be willing to be perpetually engaged in a lair camp without big brother IB's help, they haven't really proven that they deserve a rotation slot.

[Lazortag]

I'm not involved, but I have to say it looks silly to invest more time for proportionally less loot. Allow me to explain with an example. Player A gets 1 piece of dragon loot in 1 hour of tracking/killing a dragon. Player B gets 2 pieces of dragon loot in 10 hours of tracking/killing dragons. Player B may have more loot, but player A gets more loot per hour of time invested. Who would you honestly prefer to be, player A or player B?