State of the Economy: Ingame

[Zallar]

Set a Max point and flush the rest.

Determine a one time cap like 100k or 200k and do a query, anyone over that cap has all excess removed. Do it once, don't give any warning, apologize afterwards that it was needed to maintain the health of the server.

Certainly you won't get every ill gotten loot or money squirreled away in gems but it will remove some of the pressure.

[Splorf22]

I don't understand this whining over inflation. Any decent farming class can get 2+ kpp an hour without too much trouble, yet really nice rare/rare items like the Sarnak Warhammer are 10k, HBC is like 3k, Black Sapphires are 4-5k. I'm pretty sure I have exactly 2 items over 15k on all three of my toons put together. Do you people expect to be able to farm seafuries for a day and then buy BIS god/dragon loot? Even now Kinbeezy is selling an RBB for 170k. I could get that with 50-60 hours of farming easily - a hell of a lot less work than the number of Vox/Gorenaire raids I'd have to go on to get it awarded in a guild.

I believe Uthgaard when he talks about duping plats, but the idea that new players or second tier guilds are getting screwed over by the tunnel is ludicrous.

[Werlop]

The market has not changed very much from when I was leveling up my Enchanter before Kunark; second and third tier items such as Oracle Robes and Ravenscale armor are sold cheaply as people naturally evolve past old gear and offload it for whatever they can get. The market in lower items does not have as many resellers, so prices tend to stabilize at low amounts.
It's not hard to gear out a new character in lower-tier items; I found twinking out my new monk alt to be very afordable. I spent more on his Jade Maces than for everything else I gave him. I'd need a lot more plat if I were looking to grab a Fungi tunic and T-staff, but he functions well enough without those.

[usedtobejubaloftorv]

IMO the state of the economy is game breaking which is why I stopped playing.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand this whining over inflation. Any decent farming class can get 2+ kpp an hour without too much trouble, yet really nice rare/rare items like the Sarnak Warhammer are 10k, HBC is like 3k, Black Sapphires are 4-5k. I'm pretty sure I have exactly 2 items over 15k on all three of my toons put together. Do you people expect to be able to farm seafuries for a day and then buy BIS god/dragon loot? Even now Kinbeezy is selling an RBB for 170k. I could get that with 50-60 hours of farming easily - a hell of a lot less work than the number of Vox/Gorenaire raids I'd have to go on to get it awarded in a guild.

I believe Uthgaard when he talks about duping plats, but the idea that new players or second tier guilds are getting screwed over by the tunnel is ludicrous.

This.

And besides, even if there WERE less PP in the game, items like CoF would still be just as out of reach for a new player as they are now. You might think that less pp on the server would mean lower prices on everything, but that wouldn't be the case, because every random John Doe would think "Hey, for just 10 hours of farming SFs I can afford a CoF!" ... but since there aren't any more CoF in the game than there are now, this extra demand would just keep prices as high (relatively speaking) as they are right now.

[Fianna]

So what do you propose to be done about this issue. Uth?

[Dravingar]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Before the dupes in question, black sapphires for example were only 1k. As money enters a server, there becomes a disparity between the amount of time required to obtain an item, and the amount of time required to gain the money equivalent to its value.

This results in new players having a significant disadvantage, as evidenced by the earlier posts from new players, and also in players choosing not to farm certain items anymore due to the increased opportunity cost, and increases competition for items whose value has changed the least relative to the value of the currency. More simply stated, not all prices will rise equally and some items will lose sufficient value that they are not worth acquiring. This redirects competition into few scarce resources.

The cause and effect from coin to player requires some individual reflection on the flow within the dynamic. It's not a simple thing that can be explained to someone in a few paragraphs and understood.

The issue with having large amounts of cash injected into the server is that it causes many side effects, the most observable being item recharging, a well-known, valid activity turned into a problem that trivialized raid encounters, due to the widespread availability of plat.

Vendor based tradeskills such as smithing and jewelcraft become devalued as the resource required to level them becomes more available. The list goes on.

The reason why black sapphires went up so much in price is because of the VP turn in ate a BS for every keyed member which caused an even bigger desire for them.

Also for the person saying 1million pp items were selling in EC you are right, it was one the pre nerf fungi stick. Nothing else sold anywhere near that high.

[Dravingar]

Also, sweet double post but who honestly buys items? Farm that shit yourself like a man.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by Dravingar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, sweet double post but who honestly buys items? Farm that shit yourself like a man.

Don't tell me how to play my game.

A big part of my enjoyment in any MMO is the buying/selling and trading of items.

[EverquestJunkie]

Originally Posted by Grozmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't tell me how to play my game.

A big part of my enjoyment in any MMO is the buying/selling and trading of items.

^^ Nerd rage when told to acually go farm what you want ingame then cry on the fourm.