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Old 04-25-2010, 12:09 AM
Amareck Amareck is offline
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Firstly - Thanks Haynarr for th ebig bard upgrade! I've got a few issues here

Referring to previous comments on Selos:

1) My first tick of selos is a tiny improvement in speed, regardless of whether I'm wearing drums, weapons or nothing at all
2) Second tick of selos is **fast**. Its almost as if the +% modifier is applied cumulatively, instead of as a refresh
3) Subsequent ticks of selos (past the 2nd tick) do not seem to apply more +% modifier

Some notes regarding Selos:
a) selos appears to be slightly faster without drums
b) my partner thinks that this "fast" selos run speed is actually closer to correct for classic (as in, prior to the patch, selos appeared to barely out run an equiv. level sow) - she played a bard for many years
c) north ro/oasis/south ro aren't NEARLY as big anymore!

Cassindra's Chorus of Clarity (L32)
This spell now effects bard mana which it should never do. My understanding is that the *only* thing that modifies a bard's mana regeneration rate is Flowing Thought items. Its very nice, but not classic I suspect. I certainly recall bards as far forward as PoP begging for FT items on raids, to assist charm kiting endeavours after death.

Songs Generally
I) Songs will not continue to play if you're sitting down. Classically, I think you could start a song then sit, play with your balls or whatever and it would continue to refresh. This no longer occurs. Occurs with/without instruments.
II) Not sure if it's intended, but previously, my song never failed once it ticked once and I let it go. Now, it fails quite often (say, once every 10 ticks or so), without any external factors, such as an axe to my skull. Occurs with/without instruments.

One last very random thing: my hand drums appear to be a flute graphic :P
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:58 AM
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Things I have fixed in the test source, which have not been pushed live.

Sitting - This is fixed. There was a logic check, that was not applying properly. This could also be causing some random interrupts, I didn't check everything it affected. But there were several things.

Instrument modifiers were not always sticking the way I had intended. This has been coded also, and waiting to be patched live.

The mana regen, from bard songs was always affecting the bard before, but because mana was locked to not refresh while singing, you never saw it. You would get full display of actual mana after songs stopped before. If mana songs are not supposed to affect bards, then we can look at this more. But I didnt change any mechanics here, other than figure out how to get bard mana updates to send to client while singing songs. Bards were always getting the mana regen serverside on emu, just not seeing it at the client.

All Bards will be getting "the Pied Piper" added to their names, as they are now being hard coded to always play flutes. Just kidding. No idea on graphics glitch, but some of the other fixes I did for buffs might correct it. If not, i will explore this issue again when I have time. I doubt I will get much more coding time this week, a lot going on in RL.

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Old 04-25-2010, 07:38 AM
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songs end apruptly when u are sitting down...healing some comes to mind..thats not classic..please revert to make em work while sitting again since this is the way it worked

thanks!
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:59 AM
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songs end apruptly when u are sitting down...healing some comes to mind..thats not classic..please revert to make em work while sitting again since this is the way it worked

thanks!
Reading comprehension is your friend. As I said before, that was not intended. I changed a shit load of things to fix bards, and am trying to get all the little details worked out to finish getting them working right. So no more of the "revert them" crap.

I have also changed the way buffs refresh again, so for all those that want to twist 4 songs, knock yourself out when it goes live.

Are there any other songs that should not affect bards, besides mana song?

Also, please read the thread before posting extra stuff that has already been covered. I take the time to read all the posts, to understand the issues. So do me a favor, and have a little common courtesy, and don't make me read through the same thing that I have already commented on and addressed.

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Old 04-25-2010, 10:16 AM
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btw good job so far on the rest of the fixes...nothing gamebraking so far what ive seen since new patch
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:38 AM
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I do not remember this happening (and I could be 100% wrong here, I am old and have a hard time remembering things, let along things that happened in a video game over ten years ago) but my songs (selos, hymn) just end on their own sometimes. I thought once you got it playing, it was supposed to continue to play until you stopped it.

Oh well, all in all, Haynar, you did a frikkin awesome job fixing this once broken class, and for that, I thank you! Keep the faith!
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:44 AM
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Songs shouldn't just end. I think that is a bug I kind of created. I hope its fixed next patch. So after fixes go in, that correct the sitting issue, then we can see what other issues exist and move forward from there.

I will look into making mana songs not affect bards, and how to fix. I don't know offhand, but I am sure it is an easy fix. Probably one or 2 lines of code. The key thing, is finding the right place to put the code.

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Old 04-25-2010, 06:05 PM
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iam getin alot more missed notes interrupts when starting to cast a song than before now. dunno if its intended
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:24 PM
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iam getin alot more missed notes interrupts when starting to cast a song than before now. dunno if its intended
Me too, a SHIT load more.
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