The real reason the population is declining is...

[inimegalg]

Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll tell ya why population is lower.

Anybody with 70 iq or above can understand.

Everything else being equal, PvP massively slows down progression on the red server. Like it or not, progression is the bread and butter of RPGs. PvPers like to talk smack and pretend they're in an alternate universe. But they're not. Players come here to this red server and find that they're getting their a** handed to them by others and their experience bar keeps going backwards. They note that they level up faster on blue and ask themselves WTF are they wasting their time on this red server for if not for some sort of reward? Where is the risk AND reward if the red server is too heavily leaning towards risk? It's out of balance.

The "risks" on this pvp server (everything else being equal):
1) You die in pvp and lose experience
2) You get killed by other players; not just NPCs
3) You're anon and others cannot see your level/class; to protect yourself
4) More often than not, you do not group with other guilds; again, to protect yourself

The rewards:
1) In theory, PvPers feel PvP is the only reward they need

The problem is that PvPers cannot survive solely on killing other players. Furthermore, a lot of players join pvp-servers with PvE in mind. In fact, industry-wide, most players are PvE, not PvP.

Boost the reward and it will get better. Must compensate for increased risk.

Just imagine that the red server is a much more difficult zone than the normal blue zones. The creatures inside are as smart as humans and even grief. To compensate for the increased difficulty, the developers increase the reward by upping the experience rate or some other progression-related variable (like named spawn rate).

Not sure if serious? Red had a 25% xp bonus for over a week, pop didn't increase by much, if anything went down more... and for all that said it was the holiday's.. we were at 160 pop about an hr ago and its jan 3rd.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by inimegalg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if serious? Red had a 25% xp bonus for over a week, pop didn't increase by much, if anything went down more... and for all that said it was the holiday's.. we were at 160 pop about an hr ago and its jan 3rd.

25% ain't enough reward. Sorry, bro. I'm not even sure experience gain itself is enough. I tried to explain that in a post in the past few days. EQ is like spaghetti. The changes you make have many implications.

Again, look at this:

The "risks" on this pvp server (everything else being equal):
1) You die in pvp and lose experience
2) You get killed by other players; not just NPCs
3) You're anon and others cannot see your level/class; to protect yourself
4) More often than not, you do not group with other guilds; again, to protect yourself

No, I mean look and READ and UNDERSTAND:

The "risks" on this pvp server (everything else being equal):
1) You die in pvp and lose experience
2) You get killed by other players; not just NPCs
3) You're anon and others cannot see your level/class; to protect yourself
4) More often than not, you do not group with other guilds; again, to protect yourself

People keep underestimating the amount of risk on this server and on pvp servers in general.

You keep digging your own grave. You're killing off PvP except when ti's applied to PvE servers. You see, there's a pivotal lesson. This: It's easier to add PvP to PvE servers than it's to have PvP servers.

If pvp were a country, it would be Iran and blocking the Suez Canal with warships.

[Humerox]

people keep throwing these low numbers around at whim.

the population went over 200 Jan 3, and has consistently done so. we're not at 600, but the server is a far cry from dead or dying.

go to Searyx's thread and post constructive ideas about increasing pop, or gtfo. we're tired of the doom and gloom.