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Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they remove xp loss upon pvp death then what sort of penalty should they replace it with? Item loot?

They add in item loot then how many people are going to cry about that on the boards?

I think a large reason the population drops is because casual players here all of you trolls talking about how people aren't punished for exploiting etc. You think that doesn't drive away casual players or even some hardcore players who just aren't as informed? It does. I had to calm several players down and explain what actually happened.

Stop trying to label everything as an exploit and crying about it at the top of your lungs and maybe you'll stop driving people away. I know at least one person left over something I wouldn't/couldn't do. Whatever.

Maybe go recruit your old pvp buddies to play. If you come up with a legitimate well thought out proposal for something and submit it to nilbog/rogean in the proper location (in the petition/exploit forum or their pm box) I think you'll have a better response.

I think its pretty obvious whats causing the population to drop. I doubt its what you are talking about. Does Rogean and Nilbog have a character on Red99 or blue99 they leveled up to 50? I dont think so. This is probably the reason why they added in XP loss to pvp. Its already really long to level up a character and especially longer if youve done it all on blue already and the reliving EQ thing is partly gone.

No amount of events can replace daily world pvp for me. Going back somewhere and trying to gank the same group over and over might be called "bindrushing" by people who dont like it but its pvp, the sort that would happen most on Rallos Zek. Either that or hanging around the same place for hours on end pvping. (I remember HHP being a hotspot on Rallos, as was Oasis and EC for pvping).

Youve listened to basement dwellers with no lives telling you that the xp loss was nothing and that only babies bad at the game would complain about it. People using words like "bindrushing" to describe long drawn out pvp fights where i would get most of my fun on Rallos.

Like this guy:

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xp loss in pvp is like 1%, its meaningless, less than a blue mob.

So now its your core population.

I dont mean to just complain but i think the solution is again pretty obvious, you just have to stop listening to the crowd of pve poopsockers and the lulz griefers who want xp loss in pvp to stay in. Were you seriously thinking you would get any kind of new blood to the server after 2 months once twinks were in and ganking new guys? You learn the game through pvping, experience. How long do you think new people to the game are going to stay getting xp loss for lulz by twinks who know the game 10X better than these new guys? Theres an extremely long learning curve to pvp right now because nobody wants to die because of xp loss, i dont care what the basement dwellers say. You will never get an influx of people this way. Im not sure what can be salvaged from the server right now though, the time to act was probably when we were hitting 650 people at peak.