ATTN: Holocaust

Softcore PK · #1 12-19-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Melveny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You see what I did there?

Yes, you're telling me that you don't care if your members bindrush and attempt to CC. You probably don't care when they train either, so long as they're not caught and suspended.

And nothing but mass guild vs guild pvp matters to you, so Holocaust is of course not responsible for the actions of Holocaust members unless a raid target is involved. If you're going to overreact like this because I brought the pathetic actions of your guildmates to your attention, it was only a matter of time anyway. So feel free to go into seek and destroy mode at a casual guild that's always lnsed and never attempted to grief you, maybe you'll get more kills in between those losses to Nihilum.

Melveny · #2 12-19-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you're telling me that you don't care if your members bindrush and attempt to CC. You probably don't care when they train either, so long as they're not caught and suspended.

And nothing but mass guild vs guild pvp matters to you, so Holocaust is of course not responsible for the actions of Holocaust members unless a raid target is involved. If you're going to overreact like this because I brought the pathetic actions of your guildmates to your attention, it was only a matter of time anyway. So feel free to go into seek and destroy mode at a casual guild that's always lnsed and never attempted to grief you, maybe you'll get more kills in between those losses to Nihilum.

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

If there are extreme circumstances you can message one of our officers who may grant you LnS. However we will deny it also if you have provoked the member. ( shit talking and forum posts come to mind)

I don't recall recieving a tell. I do however see a forum post. Believe me when I say you do not want to follow Lovelys example and forum post, you will make matters hard for yourself and your members. Try a tell next time.

Daefuin · #3 12-19-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Melveny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

Member actions don't reflect upon the guild? What? Where do you think a guild gets it reputation? When you do good/bad/stupid shit anywhere anytime in-game or out it has consequences on all your affiliations.

Why not just man up and admit your guild has a lot of people that will cc/bind camp? Stop trying to artificially create a guild image by declaring member actions do not represent te guild. That is just dumb and doesn't make sense on any level of thinking.

Shit. I'll cc/bind camp/exp you and I know people will expect it from the rest of SBG. My guildmates know that when I kill some dumpster group 1v3 and then camp all of them retaliation will be attempted at everyone I'm assocoated with.

Tldr: man up

Softcore PK · #4 12-19-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Melveny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

If there are extreme circumstances you can message one of our officers who may grant you LnS. However we will deny it also if you have provoked the member. ( shit talking and forum posts come to mind)

I don't recall recieving a tell. I do however see a forum post. Believe me when I say you do not want to follow Lovelys example and forum post, you will make matters hard for yourself and your members. Try a tell next time.

Tbh I mostly gave up on sending Holocaust officers tells when one of them laughed at me for telling them about one of your members training a group of us. I did ask for an officer when Scowl came back into the zone for like the 4th time, but then he left for good so I dropped it.

Did you read this thread? It's not about your members refusing us LnS, when they were trying to CC it was when we died in pve (they weren't even in zone when we died).

Why are you taking issue with me bringing the Holocaust name into this? Yes, the individuals are the ones at fault, but they are tagged Holocaust. They do represent you, and they made some terrible choices here. If you don't like to see Holocaust being made fun of on the forums, maybe you shouldn't recruit people who do things like this.

I'm not talking trash for the sake of it, and I feel I've been very reasonable here.

We'll continue to offer Holocaust lns, as is our policy.

Snufz · #5 12-19-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tbh I mostly gave up on sending Holocaust officers tells when one of them laughed at me for telling them about one of your members training a group of us. I did ask for an officer when Scowl came back into the zone for like the 4th time, but then he left for good so I dropped it.

Did you read this thread? It's not about your members refusing us LnS, when they were trying to CC it was when we died in pve (they weren't even in zone when we died).

Why are you taking issue with me bringing the Holocaust name into this? Yes, the individuals are the ones at fault, but they are tagged Holocaust. They do represent you, and they made some terrible choices here. If you don't like to see Holocaust being made fun of on the forums, maybe you shouldn't recruit people who do things like this.

I'm not talking trash for the sake of it, and I feel I've been very reasonable here.

We'll continue to offer Holocaust lns, as is our policy.

lol. Pvp happened.

Lazortag · #6 12-19-2011, 08:48 PM

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lol. Pvp happened.

Yes. Pvp happened when Scowl idiotically attacked us, and got killed. Pvp then happened when we allowed him to LNS, and he did not scoot, and we killed his friend after you guys tried to attack us again. Pvp happened later when you guys tried to corpse camp us after a death you didn't even cause, and I killed Scowl NAKED with a green con charmed pet (he dropped 14 gold. I bought a few loaves of bread with it. They were yummy). Pvp happened indeed.

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Jessie · #7 12-20-2011, 07:05 AM

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Yes. Pvp happened when Scowl idiotically attacked us, and got killed. Pvp then happened when we allowed him to LNS, and he did not scoot, and we killed his friend after you guys tried to attack us again. Pvp happened later when you guys tried to corpse camp us after a death you didn't even cause, and I killed Scowl NAKED with a green con charmed pet (he dropped 14 gold. I bought a few loaves of bread with it. They were yummy). Pvp happened indeed.]

So if what you say is true then PVP fixed the situation. You don't see Scowl on here crying about you killing him. Why must you get on the forums and start a discussion about PvP when PvP happens. Start a thread and post a SS of a killshot, don't cry about LNS.

On a pvp server you must fight to keep and to get what you want. It's pathetic to start a thread everytime you get into a pvp/bind camp/cc situation.

Softcore PK · #8 12-20-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Start a thread and post a SS of a killshot

we did.

Lazortag · #9 12-20-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if what you say is true then PVP fixed the situation. You don't see Scowl on here crying about you killing him. Why must you get on the forums and start a discussion about PvP when PvP happens. Start a thread and post a SS of a killshot, don't cry about LNS.

On a pvp server you must fight to keep and to get what you want. It's pathetic to start a thread everytime you get into a pvp/bind camp/cc situation.

The second post of this thread has 3 of the killshots from that night. I guess you couldn't read that far down. Moreover I never cried about LNS, because I never asked for it, because they never killed us. I also never cried about corpse camping (after a PvE death when they weren't even in the same zone) because I dealt with it using pvp, and killed Scowl naked without any trouble at all. So in all of these situations we used pvp to fix the situation. For me, this thread is laughing at the three morons from Holocaust who continually failed at griefing us. You might see it as a qq thread, but why would the tears be coming from our end, when we had 1 death, and Holocaust had 4?