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Old 12-12-2011, 11:28 AM
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Yes, that's precisely what is meant. it's a lot more succinct to say "african american race" than it is to say "group of black people who live in and/or have ancestors who lived in the US." If the meaning has been conveyed, then the word has fulfilled its purpose - regardless of whether or not you think it's idiotic.
Okay how are black people in the US genetically different than black people from other places?
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:41 AM
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Okay how are black people in the US genetically different than black people from other places?
Irrelevant. Nobody said that race was exclusively determined by genetics. On the other hand, I have yet to encounter any white African Americans.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:04 PM
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Irrelevant. Nobody said that race was exclusively determined by genetics. On the other hand, I have yet to encounter any white African Americans.
I had a friend who was white and from south africa. She became an american citizen so then would she not be a white african american? right?

this whole thread is pretty dumb anyway. just as an aside.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:08 PM
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I had a friend who was white and from south africa. She became an american citizen so then would she not be a white african american? right?
No. "African American" implies ancestry from native sub-Saharan Africa. There have been a few cases of people who were not black attempting to claim African American status for one reason or another and they have been essentially uniformly rejected.

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this whole thread is pretty dumb anyway. just as an aside.
Says the racist GM. (I'm not serious plz don't taze me bros)
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:26 PM
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Says the racist GM. (I'm not serious plz don't taze me bros)
i'm glad you put that you were kidding. i wouldn't have known with you. i know you don't like me.

Personally. my gr-gr-gr-grandfather was black. but that's a very small percentage of non-white blood. Most people who know me would probably think i was teasing them if i told them about my grandfather.

I make no claims about my heritage. It is what it is - genealogy and records can show me who I come from but it's up to me to show the world what kind of person I am. Personally i don't identify with one race more than any other. I think we should stop segregating ourselves into different categories and just be people.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:29 PM
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i'm like 1/10th native american.

Therefore, I am native american.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:02 PM
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i'm glad you put that you were kidding. i wouldn't have known with you. i know you don't like me.

Personally. my gr-gr-gr-grandfather was black. but that's a very small percentage of non-white blood. Most people who know me would probably think i was teasing them if i told them about my grandfather.

I make no claims about my heritage. It is what it is - genealogy and records can show me who I come from but it's up to me to show the world what kind of person I am. Personally i don't identify with one race more than any other. I think we should stop segregating ourselves into different categories and just be people.
I'm adopted, and I have no idea what my heritage is. I also don't care to find out. I have less of a stake in this than anyone else. The only thing I care about is people being crucified for speaking frankly about race and genetics. Being called a racist for stating that skin tone is genetically heritable is probably the most ludicrous thing I've heard in recent memory, but that's precisely what is occurring here.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:53 PM
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I had a friend who was white and from south africa. She became an american citizen so then would she not be a white african american? right?

this whole thread is pretty dumb anyway. just as an aside.
No because "african americans" can only be black, anyone who is not black and from africa living in the united states is not "african american".... yeah
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:48 PM
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Irrelevant. Nobody said that race was exclusively determined by genetics. On the other hand, I have yet to encounter any white African Americans.
Of course you haven't because your definition boils down to black people. Seriously you make something up (or rather you follow along with something other people have made up) and draw the lines and then try to act like something that is outside of the lines you've drawn, supports your own assumptions. Srsly you might as well have just said "Sports cars can only be red, I've never seen a sports car that wasn't red"
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:53 PM
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(or rather you follow along with something other people have made up)
Guess what? that's what language is. All of the words you're using were made up by other people! *GASP*

There's a genetic component to race because that's what the word means. pretending it doesn't exist won't cause it to go away and won't cause people to stop using it. If anything, attempts to consciously and deliberately eliminate words from common vernacular have been uniformly and utterly met with complete failure. (ex. "******")
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