Quick question on camps - HHK specifically

[musufasa]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't live. It is complete and utter bullshit that there are no other places for you to xp other than going to a camp someone else had held down for some time.

We had a group get together in solb on Saturday and after we get there with 5 members of the group realize that window, royals, and bnb are camped.

Did we decide to go sit in the room below window and cut off both royals/window from entrance mobs?
Did we decide to go tell Royals they would have to share one room because thats what the "rules" state?
Did we go sit near the first bat room and pull entrance kobolds and bats and bugs that spawn that we can snag first seriously reducing the xp of all three groups?

No, we didn't, because those are lame-ass moves. What did we do? Go where people don't go to XP and headed over to live-side guk. Was it great xp? No. Were that phat lewts? No. But it was the non-lame-ass move.


People need to stop comparing this to live because it simply isn't. "Well on live there were 4 camps in the basement area."

Yea, well on live there were 50 camps in lowerguk because every, single, spawn was camped. Whether it be a wizard waiting for his one hallway spawn every 28 minutes, or a group sitting on top of the ass/sup killing those 3-4 mobs.

Does that mean on this server a group goes and sits near ass/sup and takes the ritualist or gargoyles because they are "separate camps." No, absolutely not, why? because thats a LAME-ASS MOVE.

By nilbogs post in the bug forum there are 14 mobs that spawn in the basement - a complete joke for a group to clear well before respawns.

You guys go ahead and justify it any way you want to make yourselves feel in the right but it's plain and simply exploiting the camping rules to gain benefit for yourself.

Rules are rules.

[mitic]

Originally Posted by musufasa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules are rules.

for classics sake and great justice!

[karsten]

mitic du SAU

[Humerox]

Personally I could give 2 flips about HHK.

Rules have always been in place for the benefit of the community. One grouping HHK when other people show up...now that's lame.

OP had a valid question. Sure, basement can be one-grouped. But there is room for more than one group, and why c-block other people because you don't wanna give up a little bit of xp? I thought we were all here to enjoy the journey.

[Omnimorph]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules have always been in place for the benefit of the community. One grouping HHK when other people show up...now that's lame.

Sure when other people show up, but just 1 guy shows up and wants to claim some room? not to mention that you're the guys who split it and have it on a manageable spawn or w/e.

Yes by letter of the law on camps he's entitled to it, but we've all been in that situation, and we all know what we think of the guy that just shows up. If i showed up and saw a group clearing the whole place, i'd think "Hey, they've got this place, guess i'll have to go elsewhere or ask to join them when they have room"

I'd like to think that if another group did show up, the group already there would sensibly share the camp.

[ashecrimson]

Originally Posted by Mani [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is Speed a dwarf warrior? (or some sort of melee).
If so I could have sworn that I grouped with him in Unrest once. We had taken the main room on the first floor and I was pulling all of the first floor mobs. As so often happens another group moved in the back, personally I tend to let them get on with it when this happens but Speed got pretty angry and started shouting about it.

Speed is better off going back to World of "lets be fair" Craft.

[Omnimorph]

I'd say that given the situation i would have left it as it is. Yes moving in on someone else's camp is a lame-ass move. Why not just say to the group that you're lfg, when they get a spot free to send you an invite. Then go exp somewhere else.

But then there's also a fine line between that, and having a rape group able to clear exe / sage / cav/ sav / asssup in guk. Sure they can clear it, but that's like 6 named mobs there. (7 inc ritualist). I think if you have clearly too many camps (obviously being greedy) then yes someone should cite the rules and claim they split / share the camp.

If it's a camp that 1 group should realistically have, then they should be left with it. Wonder whether or not you'd be better off going some place else.

[ashecrimson]

This guy named Speed.

Not the first time he has caused trouble has done it a lot in Unrest. Then he will shout and spew his garbage in shout to the point where everyone will just ignore him.

[President]

Originally Posted by musufasa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules are rules.

Whats your in game name? I'd like to come camp the room next to you every time I log on because "rules are rules."

[Danth]

That group sitting next to you can't 'camp' anything beyond their own little area, either. Just pull from past them and if they intercept your mobs, well, then they're kill-stealing. Granted, that can easily devolve into training each other and greifing, especially when the two groups just take the typical 'internet hostility' approach and don't even try to work mutually. However, if the parties involved have relatively level heads, it works fine.

Danth