Clarification on rules

[Dfn]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Case in point, you and your guildies waiting all day at the docks in Ocean of Tears for noobs to sail by so your massed necros/shamans can stack dots on them from the dock and sick pets on them. While they cannot fight back without jumping off the ship and missing their boat across the ocean. I.E. a tactic to cause the most amount of grief possible to the player , wether they "win" the pvp (and still miss their boat) or die (and miss their boat).

Wonder how many players wrote red99 off just on account of that, useing broken boat mechanics to cause maximum amount of grief to others.

Business as usual to the killers of the genre, those that play to only grief.

You and your type are here for only ONE reason, and its not to play EQ. Its to cause as many people as you can to quit. Then you will aounce "this game is not worth our time anymore" and move onto the next game that will let you grief others. Thats why we need GM rules/involvement, to keep cancers like you who have no interest in the actually game in question, in line.

Please ban me. I'm leveling in Ocean of Tears and killing people that pass by on the boat. Fucking moron. Go hide in the boat instead of riding outside announcing to the whole planet your ass is ready to be pounded.

The GMs should be on the server to prevent exploits, get players unstuck, help with bugs, resolve training, etc. The GMs should NOT be involved whatsoever in player to player interactions. If someone ninjas from your raid - its on YOU, protect the corpse. If someone attacked you when you didn't feel it was right (on a boat) then its on YOU, have your guild KoS them or something. The staff should be invisible in player-player interactions.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Azazel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we get a clarification on mob interference?

For example, is it ok to break mezzes on mobs? Does the answer to this change if:

a) The mezzer is in PvP range of yourself (so can fight back)
b) Not in PvP range
c) The mezzer is part of a group of people some of whom are in range some are not.

What about things like rooting people in front of incoming trains?

Thanks.

This, please. A group of mine was attacked by a red druid, and only one of us were in range of him to fight. At the time we had a couple NPCs mezzed, and this red con druid broke the mezzes as a means of fighting us (until that wasn't working fast enough so he had to train us for real... :P)

I feel that we're given these limited pvp ranges for a reason, and a oor player using any means to kill people (especially when the other people can't fight back) should not be allowed.

[Darwoth]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i got pked in oot and am now crying out volumes of text over it

[Darwoth]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel that we're given these limited pvp ranges for a reason, and a oor player using any means to kill people (especially when the other people can't fight back) should not be allowed.

lol

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also what if someone sets up a trade and then just kills the other trader to loot their cash? that allowed?

This should be allowed imo, it's pvp.

Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what about general "scams" ie someone is selling a manastone, cancels trade window and puts a pumice stone there instead, buyer doesnt pay attention and buys a pumice stone? or a jeweler makes you a diamond ring except decided he will keep your diamonds.

And this should not be allowed. This is not pvp, and it was not allowed on the live pvp servers. GMs often interfered in these cases. And really, we'd rather have the nice and trusting players play over the people that want to scam, so making this illegal would be a small help there.

[Darwoth]

to the contrary folks got ripped off left and right on the pvp servers which is why the handful of honest crafters got rich, never even heard of a gm intervening in such.

[Dfn]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This should be allowed imo, it's pvp.



And this should not be allowed. This is not pvp, and it was not allowed on the live pvp servers. GMs often interfered in these cases. And really, we'd rather have the nice and trusting players play over the people that want to scam, so making this illegal would be a small help there.

Wrong. GMs didn't do shit about it. Even people running casinos on RZ, if they scammed you - well, you were shit out of luck. So you know what people did? They start going by peoples reputation. Imagine that, using someone's reputation to judge whether or not you'll do business with them instead of crying for hand holding.

Again - GM's should not be involved in ANYTHING involving players, whether it be PvP, trading, grouping, looting.

[Softcore PK]

I had my Singing Steel Boots returned to me by a GM on VZ, but my RL friend on Rodcet lost his fungi and the GMs refused to help. It's really probably a mixed bag if the GMs decide to help or no. And I'm sure the GMs here would not intervene in every case, only some of them.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had my Singing Steel Boots returned to me by a GM on VZ, but my RL friend on Rodcet lost his fungi and the GMs refused to help. It's really probably a mixed bag if the GMs decide to help or no. And I'm sure the GMs here would not intervene in every case, only some of them.

If I were meta-PKing I'd be very leery of trying it here much with the uberwatchful eyes of our GMs compared to any other server I've played on.

[Melveny]

If you want ninja looting that's fine, but with current server setup there are to many loop holes.

One being, make FFA no lvl gap or ppl will ninja loot with oor level 20. IE no risk factor, but a huge chance of gain.