Name Change is in Order

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wikipedia:

Holocaust

Now, the word holocaust means "the intentional killing of a large number of people."


For the murders of millions of Jews and other people at the hands of the Nazis in World War II, see The Holocaust.

At least Wikipedia agrees with me.

Better tell this museum to change it's name while you're at it.

Chinese Holocaust Museum

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Better tell this museum to change it's name while you're at it.

Chinese Holocaust Museum

http://www.sfweekly.com/bestof/2007/award/best-unusual-museum-563208/

You may leave now, the door is that way --->

[Humerox]

What about Wiki bro?

You basically lost the argument a long time ago...and it may be an unusual museum, but many massacres are owed a holocaust tag.

The Black Holocaust
The Greek Holocaust
The Chinese Holocaust

What about the million Indians that were massacred over 100 years by the US government? That not important enough to be termed a holocaust either?


The more I think about it, the more pissed I get because people haven't educated themselves well enough to recognize any of these holocausts. The word isn't reduced to a single event, and by rights the term shouldn't be either. That's definitely offensive.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about Wiki bro?

You basically lost the argument a long time ago...and it may be an unusual museum, but many massacres are owed a holocaust tag.

The Black Holocaust
The Greek Holocaust
The Chinese Holocaust

What about the million Indians that were massacred over 100 years by the US government? That not important enough to be termed a holocaust either?


The more I think about it, the more pissed I get because people haven't educated themselves well enough to recognize any of these holocausts. The word isn't reduced to a single event, and by rights the term shouldn't be either. That's definitely offensive.

Didn't bother responding to your wikipedia post, because, well, it's wikipedia.

Without a qualifier, the term holocaust almost always refers to the Judeocide. I'm fairly certain that's been well established by now. You have to explicitly qualify another genocide whenever you aren't talking about the Judeocide because the working definition of holocaust has been so well established by those who use the term the most.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without a qualifier, the term holocaust almost always refers to the Judeocide. I'm fairly certain that's been well established by now. You have to explicitly qualify another genocide whenever you aren't talking about the Judeocide because the working definition of holocaust has been so well established by those who use the term the most.

Even the Holocaust needs a qualifier.

See what I did?

[purest]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even the Holocaust needs a qualifier.

See what I did?

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even the Holocaust needs a qualifier.

See what I did?

I don't see what you did, because it doesn't have a qualifier there. Articles are purely syntactical in purpose, "the" doesn't add anything to the definition that didn't exist without it.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see what you did, because it doesn't have a qualifier there. Articles are purely syntactical in purpose, "the" doesn't add anything to the definition that didn't exist without it.

Not always. Articles "a" and "the" can change context dignificantly.

Also:

The Chicago Manual of Style:

In current usage, the referent of a lowercased "holocaust" is rarely the Nazi murders, while the core referent of a capitalized "Holocaust" is almost invariably the Judeocide of the Nazi camps.