Spells: Shaman DoTs Not Stacking Correctly

[valithteezee]

Darthpeon shamans we're always an exception to the rule of dot stacking.

[DarthPeon]

Originally Posted by valithteezee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Darthpeon shamans we're always an exception to the rule of dot stacking.

Woe the world and those special shaman who didn't get they were overwriting their dots. What part of this direct dev quote in regards to how all dots worked up to that point not clear?

This does not allow for inferior spells to stack along with superior
spells.

Here is a druid documented example of how dots stacked back then. Two different lines stacking - Like plague and ebolt for a shaman...

http://web.archive.org/web/200008221...ds.com/dot.htm

[Castle]

Here is a druid documented example of how dots stacked back then. Two different lines stacking - Like plague and ebolt for a shaman...

From these sources we know how druid DoT lines work and know how necro DoT lines work. You haven't provided the evidence against Shaman DoTs stacking. On the contrary I have proven otherwise above.

As I said their DoTs weren't "lines." Lines of DoTs were only accessible by THAT class and their hybrid if one existed. Only Druids and Rangers had their lines; Necros and SKs had their lines; For Shamans... Beastlords AND Necros all had some of their DoTs. Necros got Venom of the Snake(39shm) and later Envenomed Bolt(49shm), and Scourge(34shm) and Plague(49shm) later... Weird.. they didn't get Tainted Breath(9shm) or Envenomed Breath(24shm), or Affliction(19shm) or Sicken(5shm), nor did they get Bane of Nife(56shm) or Pox(58shm) in Kunark. Makes no sense, unless they aren't preset "lines." Also Necros got their own unique poison/disease DoTs. Poison: Chilling Embrace (34) and Poiso Bolt (4) Disease: Disease Cloud (1).

Was Disease Cloud in a line of DoTs? No.
Was Chilling Embrace in a line of DoTs? No.
Was Poison Bolt in a line of DoTs? No.

Notice, poison and disease DoTs are seen as individual DoTs, not lines. Doesn't make sense if they are sharing a "line" of DoTs for their spells to be this way, unique low level DoTs, share some mid-hi level DoTs, then nothing after that.

Your quote on inferior and superior dots are used as terms to refer specifically to predefined lines of DoTs. The only examples given by the Devs were druid/necros. Sure Dev quotes have more weight, but taking a Dev quote out of context means nothing.

You're wrong. Here is an original developer patch post stating so. These retards you quoted did not understand that their stronger dot was over writing the weaker one.

This is false in many ways.

1. Your DoT has worn off and your spell did not take hold messages were in in early 2001 when these sources posted.
2. You CAN tell the difference looking at mobs HP with 1 dot versus 2 dots even if there is no DoT-tic message
3. The story that follows shows that if the DoTs weren't stacking the mob couldn't have died. The guy is quoting exact numbers. Obviously he did his homework.
   
   

   Mobs that are level 35 or so like, Dorfs, Ein, Guards etc.. have roughly 1700 hit points. Therefore after level 39 (Venom of Snake) an efficient mana way of killing these mobs is as follows: Lure with Scourge (550dmg), VoS(460dmg), EB(220dmg), ROOT, VoS(460dmg) after 42 seconds. Root to keep mob still to get full dmg from dots in. With out EB you would come up short about 150 dmg therefore having to waste mana on a blast that could get resisted or VoS which takes more mana than EB.] With this series of spells you can get right till level 48 killing those mobs with minimal mana loss and downtime. and dont forget to med while waiting for mobs to die. I have used this method on dorfs and lose only 1 bubble of mana per mob i kill. I keep just ahead of 5 dorfs at a time. thats roughly a dorf ever 4 mins with almost no down time since i med between dots not fights. Try it it works great!

   Sounds like he knows what he's talking about. He even calculated how much HP the mob had left. If EBreath didn't land they'd still be alive with 1/2 bub of HP left, instead of dead. Pretty clear he calculated it.
   
4. You have provided no clear evidence to counter these clear claims

I rest my case. Please fix this Devs.

[gloinz]

2001 = not classic
shamans are already powerhouses id be one if i could b a dwarf shaman

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Castle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[*]You have provided no clear evidence to counter these clear claims[/list]

The evidence was provided months ago, and your conclusion that shaman dots are not lines is absurd. They have a poison line and a disease line. Even your examples of the necro lines are incorrect. Your inability to operate the search function on the forums, or comprehend the topic doesn't require everyone else to rehash the discussion to satisfy your bellyaching.