Experience Rate

[DarthPeon]

Originally Posted by kprobe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There were rooting classes/snare classes (druids/sks; also some paladins but those were pre-patch and couldn't land anything), and they couldn't land snares/roots on me consistently. Cleric/Pally stuns last 4 seconds at best, in that time you have to be able to close 200 range, doable, but every time?

I typically have an MR in the 190 range, 230 if I'm paranoid. It significantly changes things.

I'm not saying its fool proof, but its doable at the current state of mechanics.

As said, bards have counters, mainly where selo's isn't viable(indoors), nukes landing, having a lot of good clickies or generally catching them offguard, but people thinking its like back in live where Tuyen's chants were hard to land will be in for a surprise, you're looking at 98-131 pvp dot's with safe resist and selo's twisting and a peak 5-dot twist of 264 in PVE at 50 with naggy drums (not ever gonna be useful in pvp though, too short range).

Agreed offtopic, but people should indeed be informed and know what to expect.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt to bow out with your dignity, but one last time...

You're either twisting your resists to 200+ OR chanting them down with your "98-131" dps assumption while dipping in and out with selos. Which is it champ?

Apparently you (and only you in your dreams) can twist unlimited resist songs, keep up selos after you are stunned, perhaps even clear off any dots on yourself and continue chanting them down with 3 dots... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if that wasn't enough you admit to not running into a stun in the current patch iteration. Your 190MR = 66% stun res only.

You should not have been commenting on something you don't know, but good attempt at deflecting with some non-sense about pve in relation to what we are discussing. I'm done with this thread.

[Lovely]

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[kprobe]

Originally Posted by DarthPeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I gave you the benefit of the doubt to bow out with your dignity, but one last time...

You're either twisting your resists to 200+ OR chanting them down with your "98-131" dps assumption while dipping in and out with selos. Which is it champ?

Apparently you (and only you in your dreams) can twist unlimited resist songs, keep up selos after you are stunned, perhaps even clear off any dots on yourself and continue chanting them down with 3 dots... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if that wasn't enough you admit to not running into a stun in the current patch iteration. Your 190MR = 66% stun res only.

You should not have been commenting on something you don't know, but good attempt at deflecting with some non-sense about pve in relation to what we are discussing. I'm done with this thread.

Dots have 4 ticks, which means you can 5-twist them, 98 pvp dpt is from 2 dots and you twist resist and selos on top of that, bringing to total of 4, this is standard. If you're not concerned with them closing 200 gap, you can swap out selos OR resists for another 32dpt, or what I usually do is cycle targets and keep 2 dots up on them while keeping selos up with the risk of eating a quick cast.

Again stuns are short duration and you have to be able to close a 200 rng gap in that time, if it wears off the bard has anywhere between 0-9sec left on selos. Roots/snares take all of 3 seconds to dispell, jboots and off you go.

You can still keep up 2 dots and 2 resists and selos if you alternate dots every round (it will drop down dps if you miss a note/etc), not standard but if you're a decent bard its doable.

If you played a bard right, you would know all this.

230 MR..... right, well - let me know when most Bards are running around with that much during classic era.

I run currently with 91 innate(a druid buff could bring it up to 135), twist in elemental or purifying you're up to 162 then if you really need it you can top it off with guardian giving you 233. This is classic with Naggy drums.

I expect these to be much lower on live due to this being top-tier classic gear, but you get the idea.

Back on-topic: keep experience rate classic or classic+20% IMHO.

edit: had to revise resist numbers once I confirmed. I typically run with elemental/purifying with an MR buff so 202 mr rather than 190ish.