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Old 11-08-2011, 11:08 PM
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And i said this because you then utilize the 49 fire pet spell till you get the 56 spell. I'm pretty sure i mentioned this somewhere in there. Since the 49 spell is 200 manna instead of the 300, 350, or 400 options. Did u guys try to find shit to nit pick and then quit reading?
The Torch of Alna is used for the level 49 pet. I'm really not sure what it is that you're trying to say here, but you're beginning to say it in an awfully aggravated-sounding way.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:00 AM
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Torch just doesn't cut it, imo the staff lets you use your fire pet till 56 when u can u dyzz. But if u can make it swing more power to ya. As far as the cothing, you don't coth yourself, u poof ur pet right as coth is about to land, then resummon. It's also a great way to get past see invis, especially in seb.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:50 AM
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naerron don't let the trolls hate on you, that's going to be a super helpful guide to a whole lot of new mages, regardless of whether or not it's 98% or 95% or whatever percent to the liking of some of the board heroes
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:10 AM
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naerron don't let the trolls hate on you, that's going to be a super helpful guide to a whole lot of new mages, regardless of whether or not it's 98% or 95% or whatever percent to the liking of some of the board heroes
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:55 AM
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Torch just doesn't cut it, imo the staff lets you use your fire pet till 56 when u can u dyzz.
What the hell are you talking about now? Holy shit the thread is going to hell. It's this kind of misinformation that can lead a noobie mage to gimp himself for half his /played.

DO NOT USE ANY FIRE PET OVER LEVEL 49.

DO NOT USE ANY FIRE PET OVER LEVEL 49.

DO NOT USE ANY FIRE PET OVER LEVEL 49.

This is how you play a mage to level 51: get your Torch of Alna and the highest level fire pet you can find. That's pretty much fucking it.

After 50, what you really want to aim for is your AIRPET. They are nasty as shit between dd stuns and kicks. They are easily the highest sustained dps... water has nothing on airpet. And if you're using a fire pet higher than the level 49 spell, you're not playing your mage efficiently whatsoever. There is literally ZERO use for them.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:22 PM
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Slave, what he means is that you can use your level 49 fire pet all the way till 56, if you have the fire staff from hate. He didn't mean that you use the 50+ fire pets. With his method of having DS's do a large portion of the damage, it makes sense.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:30 PM
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Slave, what he means is that you can use your level 49 fire pet all the way till 56, if you have the fire staff from hate. He didn't mean that you use the 50+ fire pets. With his method of having DS's do a large portion of the damage, it makes sense.
Dude... WHAT DIFFERENCE does it make if you use a Torch of Alna or an Elemental Staff of Fire... because they both work on the 49 fire pet, except that the Torch of Alna is about 600pp and the staff is like 100,000pp equivalent. DO YOU GET IT NOW?

And the 53 AIRPET is WAAAY stronger than the 49 fire. So what is your point??
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:32 PM
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After 50, what you really want to aim for is your AIRPET. They are nasty as shit between dd stuns and kicks. They are easily the highest sustained dps... water has nothing on airpet. And if you're using a fire pet higher than the level 49 spell, you're not playing your mage efficiently whatsoever. There is literally ZERO use for them.
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Dude... WHAT DIFFERENCE does it make if you use a Torch of Alna or an Elemental Staff of Fire... because they both work on the 49 fire pet, except that the Torch of Alna is about 600pp and the staff is like 100,000pp equivalent. DO YOU GET IT NOW?
Do you play a mage? If so, you really should do more research. First, the only time your air pet becomes a viable option is at 59, the 53 air pet is worse than the 49 fire pet for solo chaining at that level, especially when focused with a Staff. As for party play, the 54 water pet wipes the floor with the air pet as long as it's positioned correctly behind the mob.

Which brings us to the next thing you have incorrect. The staff makes the 49 fire pet stronger than the torch. So this does indeed make it the prefered pet for chaining till 56.

Next time get your information straight before you go full retard on the forums please.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:15 PM
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Seems like a good guide, but it should be posted here:
http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Players:Adventure
rather than in the Server Forums
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:26 PM
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Do you play a mage? If so, you really should do more research. First, the only time your air pet becomes a viable option is at 59, the 53 air pet is worse than the 49 fire pet for solo chaining at that level, especially when focused with a Staff. As for party play, the 54 water pet wipes the floor with the air pet as long as it's positioned correctly behind the mob.

Which brings us to the next thing you have incorrect. The staff makes the 49 fire pet stronger than the torch. So this does indeed make it the prefered pet for chaining till 56.

Next time get your information straight before you go full retard on the forums please.
You are so, so wrong on every point you've attempted to make here, and I'll show you exactly why.

53 UNFOCUSED airpet: level-45, damage-56, hps-2650, stun proc-55, kicks for 145+

49 FIRESTAFF firepet: level-42 damage-58 (hits much less often and for smaller averages due to level though), hps-2000, nukes for 50ish

The end result is that the airpet ends up doing a massive amount of damage over the firepet in the same time period, as well as saving you a ton of mana in the end because of far more powerful tanking abilities. It deals much more damage, and it takes much less damage, to the point that it's extremely apparent you've never used one.

As for party play, if you have 100% of the time the exact same pull with the exact same mob positioning, the waterpet is still not as useful, BARELY equaling the damage of the airpet while losing the awesome stuns. However, in the middle of any Sebilis group, the airpet will actually do more damage, unquestionably, due to the fact that you're not going to have your waterpet backstabbing over 90% of the time, which is what it takes to EQUAL the airpet damage. And the stuns are superb.

At 53, if you're using your 49 firepet over the 53 airpet, you've obviously never summoned the latter even once and seen the absolute dominance the UNFOCUSED airpet has over the FIRESTAFF FOCUSED PET for a mere 100 more mana. That is mana that you will be getting back with Reclaim, because your airpet will have far more hps at the end of the fight than your THIRD 49 firepet, which is what it will take to equal the tanking and dps ability of the 53 airpet.

You're just so off base that I must question if you have a mage at all. It's stunningly clear how much more powerful the airpet is if you've ever used one at even one camp, ever. I mean it's really, REALLY obvious. REALLY.
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