Resist Feedback post 11/6/2011

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is stun more or less detrimental than root or snare in your eyes?

Well, the problem with stun is the duration, however the user of stun usually don't want the duration, he wants the interrupt portion.

So crank up the reduction of time stunned, yet keep the stun resist at what you have it, and you'll be fine.

Stun is nice to have as a strategic interrupt of spell casting, but clearly OP if can be used as a stunlock/mez.

Dont make a perfectly fine line of spells useless, make them count in pvp for interrupting.

[SearyxTZ]

From a melee perspective:



Root/Snare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stun



A lot of class stuns are on long cooldowns too (Wizards). You can't spam those endlessly like you can with Root, and you're looking at a few seconds duration max versus up to 10 minutes ensnared.

[Crazerous]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, the problem with stun is the duration, however the user of stun usually don't want the duration, he wants the interrupt portion.

So crank up the reduction of time stunned, yet keep the stun resist at what you have it, and you'll be fine.

Stun is nice to have as a strategic interrupt of spell casting, but clearly OP if can be used as a stunlock/mez.

Dont make a perfectly fine line of spells useless, make them count in pvp for interrupting.

what the hell are you talking about?? make it as close to classic as possible. stuns should be flat out resisted 90% of the time or more when u get to 150MR....lets not customize and make them almost unresistable but shorter and longer casts or w.e the fuck.

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by Crazerous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what the hell are you talking about?? make it as close to classic as possible. stuns should be flat out resisted 90% of the time or more when u get to 150MR....lets not customize and make them almost unresistable but shorter and longer casts or w.e the fuck.

what the fuck

i said decrease the duration it stuns and keep it the way it is, how it 60% resist at 150 mr unresistable to you you fuck, and if it only stuns you for a brief moment, how is it op? it can only be used to interrupt a spell nothing more.

but for the sake of it ill modify nulls list to what i think is ok.

Stun (True Stun, not Mez)
Resist : Chance to Resist : Average Duration
25MR : 25% : 100%
50MR : 45% : 90%
75MR : 50% : 79%
100MR : 60% : 50%
125MR : 65% : 40%
150MR : 70% : 35%
175MR : 77% : 30%
200MR : 83% : 25%
250MR : 85% : 20%
300MR : 90% : 15%
350MR+ : 95% : 10%

do whatever you want tbh i dont give a shit, either way null does it there will be complaints, cause you know why? it's fucking random, meaning your sore ass can still be rooted 10 times in a row with a 99% resist rate.

[Jirr]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what the fuck

i said decrease the duration it stuns and keep it the way it is, how it 60% resist at 150 mr unresistable to you you fuck, and if it only stuns you for a brief moment, how is it op? it can only be used to interrupt a spell nothing more.

but for the sake of it ill modify nulls list to what i think is ok.

Stun (True Stun, not Mez)
Resist : Chance to Resist : Average Duration
25MR : 25% : 100%
50MR : 45% : 90%
75MR : 50% : 79%
100MR : 60% : 50%
125MR : 65% : 40%
150MR : 70% : 35%
175MR : 77% : 30%
200MR : 83% : 25%
250MR : 85% : 20%
300MR : 90% : 15%
350MR+ : 95% : 10%

do whatever you want tbh i dont give a shit, either way null does it there will be complaints, cause you know why? it's fucking random, meaning your sore ass can still be rooted 10 times in a row with a 99% resist rate.

The main use of stun in large scale pvp is to interrupt selos. Smedy, your table could make stun useless on a bard in kunark era gear maybe even classic.

[Lovely]

What stuns is it that people are whining about exactly? Because it definitely can't be Wizard stuns.

Both Wizard stuns have really long cooldowns and the 50 mana stun last for 1.5 second max and the 200 mana stun last for 2.5 seconds max. Even with a fkin 200 mana stun people have time to run out of range if you try to land a big nuke after it. This is when not resisting.. Then add a like 65%+ resist chance on anyone with decent MR.

What are the stuns that last long?

[Kringe]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what the fuck

i said decrease the duration it stuns and keep it the way it is, how it 60% resist at 150 mr unresistable to you you fuck, and if it only stuns you for a brief moment, how is it op? it can only be used to interrupt a spell nothing more.

but for the sake of it ill modify nulls list to what i think is ok.

Stun (True Stun, not Mez)
Resist : Chance to Resist : Average Duration
25MR : 25% : 100%
50MR : 45% : 90%
75MR : 50% : 79%
100MR : 60% : 50%
125MR : 65% : 40%
150MR : 70% : 35%
175MR : 77% : 30%
200MR : 83% : 25%
250MR : 85% : 20%
300MR : 90% : 15%
350MR+ : 95% : 10%

do whatever you want tbh i dont give a shit, either way null does it there will be complaints, cause you know why? it's fucking random, meaning your sore ass can still be rooted 10 times in a row with a 99% resist rate.

Smedy is obviously trolling, just look at his screenshots where he is laughing his ass off when him and Last Stun Locked Rexx on 2 paladins as a fully geared Kunark warrior..


Clerics get 4 stuns - in Classic
Pallys 2
1 cleric and a pally can literally stunlock a raid geared warrior without him moving, is pretty lols..... Throw in the fact of multiple clerics/ or pallys and pvp will get dumbed down to ridiculous amounts...

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Smedy is obviously trolling, just look at his screen shots, where he is laughing his ass off him and Last Stun Locked Rexx on 2 paladins as a fully geared Kunark warrior..


Clerics get 4 stuns - in Classic
Pallys 2
1 cleric and a pally can literally stunlock a raid geared warrior without him moving, is pretty lols..... Throw in the fact of multiple clerics/ or pallys and pvp will get dumbed down to ridiculous amounts...

It has always been this way from the beging of EQ, Warriors have always been the ugly step child, things change for warriors around Kunark and they become beasts.

[Rust1d?]

I played a warrior on early live (1999) and they sucked bad. They are not supposed to be good in classic. Although they should have been better but the devs at the time nerfed everyone else instead of buffing the warrior.

[Amuk]

Originally Posted by Rust1d? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played a warrior on early live (1999) and they sucked bad. They are not supposed to be good in classic. Although they should have been better but the devs at the time nerfed everyone else instead of buffing the warrior.

You suck period though. PS he's refering to MR and stuns landing - not how good warriors are.

Rust1d and Tamiah on one page this is fucking retarded, the people arguing against Kringe is just unreal, and it makes it looks like there's a difference of opinion when anyone who has played live would know those spells shouldn't be landing heh.