Are Druids Useless for Groups and Raids?

[Slave]

For experience, no. You do not want a druid.

For raids, yes.

[Vondra]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For experience, no. You do not want a druid.

For raids, yes.

This.

Course you can say that about any class in a raid, it's better to have them along than not...mainly since this isn't WoW where you've got a set limit of a 10/25 raid force with encounters tuned for exactly that many people where max efficiency from each player is needed.

Here if you're raiding with 21 people...well why not bring along that druid as member 22. Doesn't hurt anything.




In 6 man standard exp groups versatility just isn't needed. Your tank can do all the tanking, your cleric can do all the healing, and your enchanter (or bard) can do all the CCing. Your only decision for the last three slots is whether you want to do monk/dps/dps, monk/shaman/dps, dps/dps/dps, or shaman/dps/dps...which is usually just decided based on who's LFG atm.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Vondra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In 6 man standard exp groups versatility just isn't needed. Your tank can do all the tanking, your cleric can do all the healing, and your enchanter (or bard) can do all the CCing. Your only decision for the last three slots is whether you want to do monk/dps/dps, monk/shaman/dps, dps/dps/dps, or shaman/dps/dps...which is usually just decided based on who's LFG atm.

This statement seems contradictory. It starts by assuming that a tank, healer, and enchanter/bard are always available, but then the last three spots are based on who is LFG. In the real world, enchanter/bards, clerics, and not even tanks are always readily available. That's where the druid shines. In most circumstances, they can effectively take the role of healer, CCer, or DPSer. And when all else fails, they can aggro kite.

They may not always be desired in a group but are often welcomed in the absence of alternatives.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This statement seems contradictory. It starts by assuming that a tank, healer, and enchanter/bard are always available, but then the last three spots are based on who is LFG. In the real world, enchanter/bards, clerics, and not even tanks are always readily available. That's where the druid shines. In most circumstances, they can effectively take the role of healer, CCer, or DPSer. And when all else fails, they can aggro kite.

They may not always be desired in a group but are often welcomed in the absence of alternatives.

if a group doesn't have a cleric 50+, a bard or enchanter 50+, or a tank 50+, the group will rarely form in the first place. that's why they call it the holy trinity, and the holy trinity covers every base that the druid dabbles in. a druid does NOT replace a cleric in the absence of a cleric, nobody does.

druids have some use in raids but honestly everyone and their mom has a 50+ druid alt so you will be competing for drops with a lot of people. there are more HALFLING druids than there are people playing any other single class regardless of race.

[Tamiah2011]

they good for buffs, that about all intill they get superior heals

[Snaggles]

Well, many things in life are preferable but you don't always get them. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The druid is a pretty well rounded class. If you consider ports and track they are probably the best rounded in the game (for overall gameplay).

If you have an enchanter a druid vs shaman for healing isn't a big deal. Even if you have a bard slowing/cc'ing a druid can keep up with heals. Ultimately you need a tank, CC (sometimes), and healer...the rest are just dps and can be filled by many classes. I guess even a Druid can be group DPS but it's a pretty crappy spot for them, imho.

On raids, especially in Velious, they become backup healers saving DPS from dying and providing group buffs like thorns and resists.

Many people re-roll from a Druid main for another class. Part of being frustrated with not being the "best" at much for the little min-maxer in all of us.


Note: Realized after writing it that you all mentioned things I did. Too lazy to edit and make it sound brilliant.