This server needs Uthgaard back.

[Eccezan]

Excuse me people in TR. Objectively, could someone answer whether they see any issue with purposefully breaking the rules because of perceived breaking of the rules by another guild? Instead of allowing the GM's and guides to do what they volunteered to do.

Do you not see that this issue here? Do you not see where we are going to end up if every time a guild thinks another guild is breaking a rule, they take the law into their own hands and kill steal like you did today?

A few weeks ago TR kited dracolich around for several minutes before engaging while TMO was ready and able to engage. There was even a strong chance that we got FTE on that encounter as well. Sure we could have probably KS'd you there and by your apparent understanding, I guess we would have been in the right and should have done that. TMO leadership at that time chose to back off and call a camp out, given the knowledge that EVEN though you chose to break the rules, we aren't a guild that takes the law into our own hands as it is against the play nice policy. Hey, we know when we are beat.


We mobilized for Dracoliche and we were racing TR for him. Both guilds were going for the pull; TMO was ready with 30+ and TR had under 10 people in the zone.

It's approximately 4 minutes of TR members kiting dracoliche around before pulling him to west wall.

To save you time - Dracoliche appears on this Fraps just before 1:30 although he was aggro before this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6VmG...=youtube_gdata

Around 4:05 is when Zeelot called a non-engage and to camp out to avoid a KS fest with TR. It is our understanding that due to the PNP this is the way GM's would like us to act on the server, not to take the matter in our hands and turn every engage into a KS battle because of perceived rule breaking. Any thoughtful answers are welcomed.

[burkemi5]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Excuse me people in TR. Objectively, could someone answer whether they see any issue with purposefully breaking the rules because of perceived breaking of the rules by another guild? Instead of allowing the GM's and guides to do what they volunteered to do.

Do you not see that this issue here? Do you not see where we are going to end up if every time a guild thinks another guild is breaking a rule, they take the law into their own hands and kill steal like you did today?

A few weeks ago TR kited dracolich around for several minutes before engaging while TMO was ready and able to engage. There was even a strong chance that we got FTE on that encounter as well. Sure we could have probably KS'd you there and by your apparent understanding, I guess we would have been in the right and should have done that. TMO leadership at that time chose to back off and call a camp out, given the knowledge that EVEN though you chose to break the rules, we aren't a guild that takes the law into our own hands as it is against the play nice policy. Hey, we know when we are beat.


We mobilized for Dracoliche and we were racing TR for him. Both guilds were going for the pull; TMO was ready with 30+ and TR had under 10 people in the zone.

It's approximately 4 minutes of TR members kiting dracoliche around before pulling him to west wall.

To save you time - Dracoliche appears on this Fraps just before 1:30 although he was aggro before this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6VmG...=youtube_gdata

Around 4:05 is when Zeelot called a non-engage and to camp out to avoid a KS fest with TR. It is our understanding that due to the PNP this is the way GM's would like us to act on the server, not to take the matter in our hands and turn every engage into a KS battle because of perceived rule breaking. Any thoughtful answers are welcomed.

this is a pretty good argument why TR is full of dirty players. also, officers using showEQ, etc etc etc

[Francois]

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this is a pretty good argument why TR is full of dirty players. also, officers using showEQ, etc etc etc

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[Samuel]

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Reminding the public that several members/officers in TR were suspended for cheating and are now back in your guild only sounds like a broken record to the guilty.

To the rest of us, it is still a significant event.

[Francois]

Originally Posted by Samuel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reminding the public that several members/officers in TR were suspended for cheating and are now back in your guild only sounds like a broken record to the guilty.

To the rest of us, it is still a significant event.

I don't care that he wants to say that. Saying it more than once per thread gets tiresome tho.

[Trystych]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few weeks ago TR kited dracolich around for several minutes before engaging while TMO was ready and able to engage. There was even a strong chance that we got FTE on that encounter as well. Sure we could have probably KS'd you there and by your apparent understanding, I guess we would have been in the right and should have done that. TMO leadership at that time chose to back off and call a camp out, given the knowledge that EVEN though you chose to break the rules, we aren't a guild that takes the law into our own hands as it is against the play nice policy. Hey, we know when we are beat.


We mobilized for Dracoliche and we were racing TR for him. Both guilds were going for the pull; TMO was ready with 30+ and TR had under 10 people in the zone.

It's approximately 4 minutes of TR members kiting dracoliche around before pulling him to west wall.

To save you time - Dracoliche appears on this Fraps just before 1:30 although he was aggro before this time.

At 0:00 of the fraps no TR are in zone yet all these mobs are being kited, the fraps is unclear as to when draco gets added to this kite. This explanation was given by VD, whom we were not raiding with and did have someone in zone at that time:

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[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Trystych [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At 0:00 of the fraps no TR are in zone yet all these mobs are being kited, the fraps is unclear as to when draco gets added to this kite. This explanation was given by VD, whom we were not raiding with and did have someone in zone at that time:

but OMG, who is the monk with the golden pants ?