One spell to rule them all

[Lovely]

I was a 50 sk on RZ but never raided much. I had a frog crown etc prob a cold resist near 100 and could even buff my cold to over 100+ as a SK.

I also remember fearing the shit out of ice comet even with these resist. If I got lucky I would resist maybe 1/2 the damage and would take around 500. Sometimes I would take like 800 still. If I got hit by one of these it was always a holy fuck where is he?! moment. Granted I also remember being able to interupt wizards pretty easy if I was hitting them and fk them up if they didnt jump me.

I'm not sure how spell DMG worked on Rallos ZEK, but in this beta Ice Comet can never hit for 800 even if they person has -10000000 resist and is level 1. Just saying

[Kringe]

756 Dmg to be exact... And on Classic Cresh could be right, for quite some time Ice Comet landed for 1144dmg before they nerfed the spell dmg to 66%..


Tmoneynegro... Im calling Bshit as usual... I was the top geared warrior during Velious, having insane resists with lohen at my side all the time, Kaaq (as seen in the screenshot Darw's thread, could still land Sunstrike "rarely for 1610" but for 800-1000 alot during velious, but it just wasnt as efficient to cast as Lure of Ice (you were guaranteed around 850dmg), and thats with Fire/Cold being almost 300, more if lohen was twisting.

[MakeYouMad]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tmoneynegro... Im calling Bshit as usual... I was the top geared warrior during Velious

How come I didn't see you at Test of Tactics PvP tournament finals where I was also playing a warrior in Velious? lol

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kaaq (as seen in the screenshot Darw's thread, could still land Sunstrike "rarely for 1610" but for 800-1000 alot during velious

And here's a guy in the year 2000 saying there was a 50% resist rate on ice comet with 120CR.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...88&postcount=5

Full resist rate was obviously much higher than 1 in 30 casts. It was at least 25-30% with 120CR from my recollection. When I PvP'd against druids on my monk, they didn't even bother casting nukes on me, just spammed dots over and over. I remember Darwoth nuked me for like 60-70% of possible damage one day and I looked at my screen surprised that it actually landed. Darwoth was the only druid that even attempted to use mana nuking me. That guy Amreet only cast dots every time. Same with Dharma on SZ.

When I got nuked with 120ish resists, about 1/4th were full resist, 1/4th 25% damage, 1/4th 50% damage, and 1/4th 75% damage.

Next is a post from Luclin era (after resists were changed for spells to land easier) where a guy says sunstrike hit him for 1100 out of possible 1600 damage with 120resist.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...l=1#post131439

[Kringe]

Originally Posted by MakeYouMad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How come I didn't see you at Test of Tactics PvP tournament finals where I was also playing a warrior in Velious? lol

Um ToT was held before Velious In Kunark where my pal fiegi represted and RZ won.... (Warrior Botb was in Kunark where I hadnt really switched to the warrior class yet)

And the next big ToT was the 18vs 18 where I was in it, and we defeated 3 teams then lost to TZ (I think cause one of our bards didnt show up) and not having 3 bards in that was gg... Was still a blast tho..

Originally Posted by MakeYouMad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And here's a guy in the year 2000 saying there was a 50% resist rate on ice comet with 120CR.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...88&postcount=5

Full resist rate was obviously much higher than 1 in 30 casts. It was at least 25-30% with 120CR from my recollection. When I PvP'd against druids on my monk, they didn't even bother casting nukes on me, just spammed dots over and over. I remember Darwoth nuked me for like 60-70% of possible damage one day and I looked at my screen surprised that it actually landed. Darwoth was the only druid that even attempted to use mana nuking me. That guy Amreet only cast dots every time. Same with Dharma on SZ.

When I got nuked with 120ish resists, about 1/4th were full resist, 1/4th 25% damage, 1/4th 50% damage, and 1/4th 75% damage.

Next is a post from Luclin era (after resists were changed for spells to land easier) where a guy says sunstrike hit him for 1100 out of possible 1600 damage with 120resist.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...l=1#post131439

That guys is already posting from the Kunark Era (hence the talk about splurt) resisted had a few minor tweaks (nothing major) when it was released.

Who was your monk on RZ?

Anywho,
Resists can be argued till our face turns blue, but I pretty much think we are ALL in agreeance that the Pillage/Nullify line definitely shouldnt be resisted by players.

[fiegi]

I'm an everquest god, true story

[MakeYouMad]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anywho
Resists can be argued till our face turns blue.

I found an actual resist parse and posted it:

"Anyway, his resist parse claims an average of 347 damage casting 793 damage Draught of Ice against himself with 167CR. If you get PvP damage reduction casting on yourself, that would be 347 out of 531 possible damage average, or 65%. If you don't get PvP damage reduction nuking yourself, that would be 347/793, or an average of 44% per nuke. No data on full resist rates. He uses the phrase "the average hit" so I'm guessing he did not count full resists as 0 damage in that parse and left them out or his average would be much lower."

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=51839

[Darwoth]

looks like his numbers fall in with exactly what i was saying, doubt he was getting many if any full resists, at 170+ cr and 200+ FR (think resists were effectively capped at 200 back then) i did not full on resist single effect spells much if at all more than i would have normally vs players.

[MakeYouMad]

Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

looks like his numbers fall in with exactly what i was saying, doubt he was getting many if any full resists, at 170+ cr and 200+ FR (think resists were effectively capped at 200 back then) i did not full on resist single effect spells much if at all more than i would have normally vs players.

Did you get PvP damage reduction casting on yourself or not because I don't remember. It's kind of a big deal that you're absolutely certain of it for the parse to be useful.