OCCUPY WALLSTREET!

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ here's the thing. I literally walk through these protestors on a daily basis to arrive at my office in PO Square in Boston. So, whether you like it or not, I am informed enough based on 1st hand experience, and unfortunately for you have the right to identify my opinion publically.

so why bother introducing media when you said yourself that your firsthand experience was more than enough? have you ever actually stopped and talked to any of these people in person?

[azeth]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have you ever actually stopped and talked to any of these people in person?

How dare you ask a question that you yourself cannot answer, "Yes" to.

I'll exit this thread with this lasting image from the occupy Boston protest -

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What an absolutely prophetic and well thought out message.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How dare you ask a question that you yourself cannot answer, "Yes" to.

Puppet much? What're you the most tattoo'd cool kid @ state_college_02?

Not that I feel like I need to defend myself from personal attacks like this, but yes, I'm attending university.

I'm going to school to be a teacher because I am so brazen as to actually think that I can help make the world a better place. I'm also working 36 hours a week and attending classes full time. I do not have any tattoos, but I have thought about getting one from time to time.

I've answered your question, now please answer mine: have you ever actually talked to any of these people in person?

[Orruar]

From what I've seen, the message of a great number of these protestors is "Corporations are using government power to screw over the little guy, so let's give government more power to stop them!" The lack of any deduction skills on how that idea will pan out is amazing.

If they were at any way consistent with their goals, they'd be protesting outside the Fed and the White House. Instead, they are essentially trying to bring down a statue by attacking its shadow.

I'm actually going to attend the Occupy Orlando event tomorrow. Will find out firsthand what they're all about.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because wittingly or otherwise, you're parroting propoganda(sic).

This. Exactly this. Examples:

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the "occupy Boston" version of this "protest" is pretty hilarious. Every radio station/news network is unable to get a straight answer from any of the "protestors" regarding why they're even there.

TBH - get the fuck out of Boston. The only "99%" stat thats obvious to identify is the fact that 99% of these idiots are homeless fucking drifters shtitting up public transportation and bathing in McDonalds restrooms.

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has anyone been to the Occupy Wall Street? It's a bunch of wanna be smelly hippies in drum circles smoking pot and saying maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan every 5 seconds. There is nothing happening there. Good luck finding a handful of people who are actually there to protest with good reason. The rest of them are worthless freeloaders. It's really a crock of shit the media is trying to blow up into some movement when it isn't. Can't wait for it to get real cold outside.

Originally Posted by Hoggen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've heard several say they have student loans, and they want the "government" to pay those loans. I've heard many say they are tired of corporations. I've heard many say they think the rich have too much money.

But I have yet to hear one of them say anything about what exactly they want done.

With sponsors like Adbusters and George Soros, I can't see anything positive coming from this bunch of basement dwellers turned park occupiers.

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They do, don't they? It's a shame, because there's a legitimate gripe somewhere in there, obscured by a mass of dirty hippies playing bongos and generally goofing off.

I know what their message should be, but it seems like they're just whining that they have no money while others do.

Protesting bailouts? That's good. Protesting enormous pay and bonuses for execs of struggling companies, while the working man continually gets laid off and can't find adequate work? That's good. Just hanging around as an unemployed hippie eating free food, who doesn't even know who people like Nancy Pelosi are? That's not good. And that's what these people come off as.

I am so tired of people regurgitating this bullshit. Some Republican commentator told us that they don't have a message and that they don't have unity, so we're going to repeat it to everybody that will listen because we're just sheep to the dollar.

The fact of the matter is that they have a very specific, precise message: we will no longer be ruled by wealth. So where did their protests start? In the exact location where the most money in the world exchanges hands daily on the backs of the American workers.

There are reasons they are unemployed. There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.

This is exactly what started the Arab Spring earlier this year. Young people in Tunisia were college educated, but there were no jobs. As a result, they are forced to do menial jobs while the government steals their fruit carts.

The OWS is here to take the control of the government back for the 99%. No longer will they be ruled by corporations, lobbyists, and crooked politicians. At this point, most of the violence has been directed towards them by government oppressors, but the second it turns the other way, it's an all out war against the rich.

The problem for them is going to be that the soldiers and the police are also overworked and underpaid just like the rest of us. How long do you think they'll continue to obey orders to fire at their brothers and sisters?

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.

Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?

And I suppose you know this from firsthand experience?

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact of the matter is that they have a very specific, precise message: we will no longer be ruled by wealth. So where did their protests start? In the exact location where the most money in the world exchanges hands daily on the backs of the American workers.

I know they have a message, and I agree with it. But there's a lot of people there who harm the entire effort. The ones who camp out there do more harm than good.

There are reasons they are unemployed. There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.

There certainly are reasons. Have you seen them? What kind of job do you expect to get when you look like that? I'm talking the hippies. I'd hire them to work the graveyard shift at a warehouse for $10/hr, but that's about it. I wouldn't even hire them for $10/hr security. You aren't exactly gonna get rich sitting in a park playing bongos and hacky sack.

The job market is tough, which means you have to present yourself better. Nice haircut, nice smile, professional demeanor, nice clothing etc. You wanna be a hippie? Be prepared to live the hippie life, and don't complain that you don't have a job or money.

(THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE HIPPIES, who unfortunately are the ones that stand out and ruin the chances of the protests accomplishing anything)

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?

Proof? Or just more regurgitated bullshit?

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There certainly are reasons. Have you seen them? What kind of job do you expect to get when you look like that? I'm talking the hippies. I'd hire them to work the graveyard shift at a warehouse for $10/hr, but that's about it. I wouldn't even hire them for $10/hr security. You aren't exactly gonna get rich sitting in a park playing bongos and hacky sack.

The job market is tough, which means you have to present yourself better. Nice haircut, nice smile, professional demeanor, nice clothing etc. You wanna be a hippie? Be prepared to live the hippie life, and don't complain that you don't have a job or money.

(THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE HIPPIES, who unfortunately are the ones that stand out and ruin the chances of the protests accomplishing anything)

I'm sorry, but not everybody who has a problem with the government is a hippie, and if you think that they're the only ones protesting, you're being lied to and you're buying it. You just sound like you have prejudices against the poor, have them all lumped into one category, and refer to them with a demeaning euphemism to make yourself feel better about your bigotry.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry, but not everybody who has a problem with the government is a hippie, and if you think that they're the only ones protesting, you're being lied to and you're buying it. You just sound like you have prejudices against the poor, have them all lumped into one category, and refer to them with a demeaning euphemism to make yourself feel better about your bigotry.

You missed my very last sentences in parentheses. No I don't think they're all hippies, and yes I do agree with their message (the smart ones, not the hippies).

This movement needs to get off it's ass and get organized to have any effect. The Tea Party was very successful at it, and now it's time for this Occupy movement to do the same. They are not opposed to each other btw, despite what some less-informed individuals in the media might want you to believe.

If they don't organize and put some real pressure on their representatives, they will fizzle out and be remembered as a bunch of hippies who were whining that didn't have enough money. There are two major differences between the Tea Party and this movement, and they are organization and who participates. If they can organize, man we have a real force at work in government with them and the Tea Party. I'd love to see it.