TMO Wipe with 60 on GORE

Autotune · #1 10-05-2011, 02:25 PM

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It would be categorically impossible for this to be true and this also to be true:

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The sheer amount of loot that we have sitting banked (read: banked loot is generally stuff nobody put in for because they already have what they want, with a few exceptions like rez sticks and dragon scales) means months and months of clean sweeping dragons.

so i mean, get working on your cognitive dissonance in order to make both of those work in your mind.

I'm missing your logic(? lack of a better word).

Because your have banked loot, TR looks better than DA when they had a joint operation with VD?

I don't remember DA using VD to cock block another guild and paying them in loot they banked when they had free run over raid targets. Hmm... Let me go back and check.

I guess from a banked loot that is used to persuade people to app/join forces stand point, TR looks better than DA did. From a general you help us succeed in killing targets and we'll help you, DA looked better than TR does currently.

The only reason you guys are using VD is to try and slow TMO down. Then again, maybe it's just from where I am standing.

From VD's standpoint it's another + either way and is probably similar. Looking from the other side of the team then/now, it's pretty different situation.

Knuckle · #2 10-05-2011, 02:30 PM

Tommy_Wiseau · #3 10-05-2011, 02:37 PM

if u wanna stay in my hood u gonna need to choke on 3 bananas lil *****

Shiftin · #4 10-05-2011, 03:37 PM

Wow, you REALLY love making stuff up.

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm missing your logic(? lack of a better word).

Because your have banked loot, TR looks better than DA when they had a joint operation with VD?

I don't remember DA using VD to cock block another guild and paying them in loot they banked when they had free run over raid targets. Hmm... Let me go back and check.

How are you going to check something you don't know about and weren't involved in? DA joined up with VD to farm the upper islands in sky that were not (and still aren't) tuned properly. They brought every mage possible from both guilds to pet down eye. That was basically the extent of their cooperation.

They also didn't pay them in banked dragon haste because DA didn't have banked dragon haste while they were raiding with VD (we are also not handing out things from our bank so people will like us if that was your implication). At DA's peak they were raiding the 4 Classic targets with (at their peak) 100 people and still losing some mobs, and it lasted for about 2 months. A huge chunk of their guild was massively undergeared. They were far from banking dragon haste.

Their core members ended up extremely well geared while those they added as cannon fodder got pissed and the guild collapsed when it reached a critical mass combined with their raid suspension. Stratifying members is a horrible idea and I can't believe TMO is now openly doing the same thing.

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I guess from a banked loot that is used to persuade people to app/join forces stand point, TR looks better than DA did. From a general you help us succeed in killing targets and we'll help you, DA looked better than TR does currently.

The only reason you guys are using VD is to try and slow TMO down. Then again, maybe it's just from where I am standing.

I wrote 2 pages on this like 4 hours ago. Here it is. http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...&postcount=120 Loke explained it as well. We're raiding some targets with VD because our numbers are low for both predictable and obvious reasons and because VD are great folks to raid with.

In a closed system, consuming resources (loot) requires depriving others of those resources. If you want to assign the most nefarious motives (trying to slow you down out of spite) to your enemy because that makes your trolling MO more reasonable, then go for it. The truth is that you do what you must to keep a guild going. TR loves raiding. If you love to raid and are short people, you either recruit everyone you can /guildinvite or find some good folks to raid with you for a while while respecting their culture independently of yours. We went the way that allows us to preserve our own culture.

When trak breastplates, mana robes, cloaks of piety and poisoned mantles have no value and we no longer have any unkeyed apps, members, coth bots and CR pots for VP, you can accuse us of "just trying to slow TMO down" and I'll be the first to not only agree with you, but not camp out at the lair. Until then, take it easy on the crazy pills. You're not doing your guild any favors.

Cheers

Alarti0001 · #5 10-05-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, you REALLY love making stuff up.

How are you going to check something you don't know about and weren't involved in? DA joined up with VD to farm the upper islands in sky that were not (and still aren't) tuned properly. They brought every mage possible from both guilds to pet down eye. That was basically the extent of their cooperation.

They also didn't pay them in banked dragon haste because DA didn't have banked dragon haste while they were raiding with VD (we are also not handing out things from our bank so people will like us if that was your implication). At DA's peak they were raiding the 4 Classic targets with (at their peak) 100 people and still losing some mobs, and it lasted for about 2 months. A huge chunk of their guild was massively undergeared. They were far from banking dragon haste.

Their core members ended up extremely well geared while those they added as cannon fodder got pissed and the guild collapsed when it reached a critical mass combined with their raid suspension. Stratifying members is a horrible idea and I can't believe TMO is now openly doing the same thing.

I wrote 2 pages on this like 4 hours ago. Here it is. http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...&postcount=120 Loke explained it as well. We're raiding some targets with VD because our numbers are low for both predictable and obvious reasons and because VD are great folks to raid with.

In a closed system, consuming resources (loot) requires depriving others of those resources. If you want to assign the most nefarious motives (trying to slow you down out of spite) to your enemy because that makes your trolling MO more reasonable, then go for it. The truth is that you do what you must to keep a guild going. TR loves raiding. If you love to raid and are short people, you either recruit everyone you can /guildinvite or find some good folks to raid with you for a while while respecting their culture independently of yours. We went the way that allows us to preserve our own culture.

When trak breastplates, mana robes, cloaks of piety and poisoned mantles have no value and we no longer have any unkeyed apps, members, coth bots and CR pots for VP, you can accuse us of "just trying to slow TMO down" and I'll be the first to not only agree with you, but not camp out at the lair. Until then, take it easy on the crazy pills. You're not doing your guild any favors.

Cheers

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