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Old 09-29-2011, 04:47 AM
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Let mages have their hay day. They suck later on. The pet is very CC-able and their cast times are very long. They have no way to heal themselves. When you get some MR, the earth pet will not root you.
Problem is, it's going to be a pretty long wait with P99-type XP before you get the gear you need to resist. I'm not wanting to put up with light blue con mage pets chain rooting for months. It's a PITA, an advantage mages shouldn't have, and that would be an awfully long heyday.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:51 AM
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Problem is, it's going to be a pretty long wait with P99-type XP before you get the gear you need to resist. I'm not wanting to put up with light blue con mage pets chain rooting for months. It's a PITA, an advantage mages shouldn't have, and that would be an awfully long heyday.
Endure Magic, not a very hard spell to get.

Or you could just fear/root/ many other things to handle the pet before it gets to you.

And if your a low-level melee running around soloing?

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Old 09-29-2011, 05:57 AM
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Just don't get why so many people having issues with Mages. I rolled a Cleric and have only been killed once by 3 WIZ's at level 2.

Since then killed over 5+ Mages, just root/fear the pet and blind/root/beat down the Mage.

Sorry if your a loner melee, find friends or level in zones most people don't (I leveled in East freeport/North Ro opposed to West freeport/East Commons) catch Mages when they go to resupply for pet reagents at their guilds.

I never even played EQ PVP before, this is just obvious shit.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:04 AM
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:58 AM
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Endure Magic, not a very hard spell to get.

Or you could just fear/root/ many other things to handle the pet before it gets to you.
I know all that, lol. I'm talking about natural resists...light blue con pets shouldn't be rooting much, if at all. Like I said, it's more of an annoyance than anything else, and although a low-level problem, it's an important one.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:03 AM
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I know all that, lol. I'm talking about natural resists...light blue con pets shouldn't be rooting much, if at all. Like I said, it's more of an annoyance than anything else, and although a low-level problem, it's an important one.
I have heard stories of boxed gnome/mage gank squads griefing people off the beta.

But unless it's your bind point shouldn't be that big an issue.
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Endure Magic, not a very hard spell to get.

Or you could just fear/root/ many other things to handle the pet before it gets to you.

And if your a low-level melee running around soloing?

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Alright, lets break this down.

The lowest level any class can get the spell Endure Magic is 19. So pre level 20, mages have free reign to kill anyone they want. This is, of course, assuming that a 20 MR buff that can be dispelled will save you, which, given the current resist modifier on the earth pet's root, I'm betting won't unless its a pet much lower level than you.

Do you know why mages weren't given root? Because their damage output between their pet and nukes is insane. If they have a reliable CC like root at any given time, there is no reason to play any other class.
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Alright, lets break this down.

The lowest level any class can get the spell Endure Magic is 19. So pre level 20, mages have free reign to kill anyone they want. This is, of course, assuming that a 20 MR buff that can be dispelled will save you, which, given the current resist modifier on the earth pet's root, I'm betting won't unless its a pet much lower level than you.

Do you know why mages weren't given root? Because their damage output between their pet and nukes is insane. If they have a reliable CC like root at any given time, there is no reason to play any other class.
Just because you dont have endure magic doesnt mean you can't root/fear/snare/mez/etc.

lol @ "Free reign to kill whoever they want" if that was so I assure you I would've been corpse camped many times.

I usually opened up PvP with a blind on the mage, fear on the pet then root the mage and nuke them down while casting additional blinds on the mage and additional roots/fear on the pet.

Really not that complicated considering MOST casters get at least root/snare/fear/mez/blind or some spells along those lines.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:12 AM
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Just because you dont have endure magic doesnt mean you can't root/fear/snare/mez/etc.

lol @ "Free reign to kill whoever they want" if that was so I assure you I would've been corpse camped many times.

I usually opened up PvP with a blind on the mage, fear on the pet then root the mage and nuke them down while casting additional blinds on the mage and additional roots/fear on the pet.

Really not that complicated considering MOST casters get at least root/snare/fear/mez/blind or some spells along those lines.
I would love to see you fight an equal level mage with an earth pet up. For me at level 9 as a cleric, root, flash of light and stun are chain resisted by players anywhere near my level. If all my spells landed as often as the earth pet's root did, then there wouldn't be a problem.

You're either fighting mages 8 levels lower than you or you're just making stuff up. Root and flash of light land about 10% of the time, and root breaks quickly on any damage dealt.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:18 AM
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I would love to see you fight an equal level mage with an earth pet up. For me at level 9 as a cleric, root, flash of light and stun are chain resisted by players anywhere near my level. If all my spells landed as often as the earth pet's root did, then there wouldn't be a problem.

You're either fighting mages 8 levels lower than you or you're just making stuff up. Root and flash of light land about 10% of the time, and root breaks quickly on any damage dealt.
Root/fear/blind land consistently on pets and npcs (About 60-70% for me) even if you get rooted you can fear the pet away. I wouldn't suggest you nuke pets already rooted that's dumb, blind (as far as my experience goes with PC's) lands about 40% ish (as long as they're not already blind). I have stun but have only used it on mobs who heal so far.

As far as roots yeah about 30-40% but I don't waste time trying to root players unless they're already blind.

And the "making stuff up" part, if you can't come up with valid points to argue don't just make retarded accusations.

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