Is pet damage being returned to P99 launch code?

Humerox · #1 09-25-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joetheman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, understandable. But were the pets this weak in classic?

No, they weren't. Rogean basically said tough titties, deal with it. The arguments, rants and flames were duly noted, lol.

Lazortag · #2 09-25-2011, 01:51 PM

Pets aren't "weak" at all on p99, I think you guys have gotten too used to how pets are on other eqemu servers. They still solo amazingly well. How it is now is very close to classic, the only "nerf" is that pets aren't given the delay of the weapons they wield (so two rusty daggers won't make your pet hit faster). Also they don't dual wield automatically but that's correct for the timeline.

hayden · #3 09-25-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pets aren't "weak" at all on p99, I think you guys have gotten too used to how pets are on other eqemu servers. They still solo amazingly well. How it is now is very close to classic, the only "nerf" is that pets aren't given the delay of the weapons they wield (so two rusty daggers won't make your pet hit faster). Also they don't dual wield automatically but that's correct for the timeline.

This isn't true - the frequency of getting their maximum hit was reduced dramatically and cut their DPS a TON. Pets used to typically always hit near the maximum. Now it's pretty damn rare.

Humerox · #4 09-25-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pets aren't "weak" at all on p99, I think you guys have gotten too used to how pets are on other eqemu servers. They still solo amazingly well. How it is now is very close to classic, the only "nerf" is that pets aren't given the delay of the weapons they wield (so two rusty daggers won't make your pet hit faster). Also they don't dual wield automatically but that's correct for the timeline.

The delay and dual wield is really what I was referring to...pets are closer to classic than they were before the tweaks, but at lower levels the weaknesses are more noticeable. It all evens out, tho.

joetheman · #5 09-25-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, they weren't. Rogean basically said tough titties, deal with it. The arguments, rants and flames were duly noted, lol.

Well I dont understand this server then. They enforced classic graphics, classics, everything, but they are not going to make classic pets? Even the graphics on the pets arent classic yet the character models are? Im sorry, im just a little confused.

Lazortag · #6 09-25-2011, 02:04 PM

If you have proof that the pets are not classic (apart from the delay issue which is client-side I think), post it instead of crying about it please.

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This isn't true - the frequency of getting their maximum hit was reduced dramatically and cut their DPS a TON. Pets used to typically always hit near the maximum. Now it's pretty damn rare.

Pets hitting for their maximum all the time was not classic. There used to be serious problems with pet mitigation/damage that have (thankfully) been fixed. Level ~40 pets used to mitigate damage on mobs like the spiroc lord better than level 50 warriors. You really want to go back to that?

hayden · #7 09-25-2011, 03:38 PM

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Pets hitting for their maximum all the time was not classic. There used to be serious problems with pet mitigation/damage that have (thankfully) been fixed. Level ~40 pets used to mitigate damage on mobs like the spiroc lord better than level 50 warriors. You really want to go back to that?

I wasn't saying it was classic, I was negating where you said that the only thing that changed was their delay. Don't have to be such a baby about it.

Lazortag · #8 09-25-2011, 05:28 PM

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I wasn't saying it was classic, I was negating where you said that the only thing that changed was their delay. Don't have to be such a baby about it.

Why are you even asking about pets being changed back to how they were at the launch of p99, if you don't think it's classic? You know that red99 is attempting to be a classic server right?

bamzal · #9 09-25-2011, 05:59 PM

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Why are you even asking about pets being changed back to how they were at the launch of p99, if you don't think it's classic? You know that red99 is attempting to be a classic server right?

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**nilbog** · #10 09-25-2011, 02:06 PM

Pets on the other emulators are generally are very wrong.. and very much in the OP category.

They aren't that far from classically accurate on p99 now. I think some additional work on npc vs pet hate is needed, but the damage and ac are correct.

And you can see your elementals using the classic models. Choose it in Options, uncheck Luclin elementals and horses. Alternately, you can change UseLuclinElementals=TRUE to UseLuclinElementals=FALSE in your eqclient.ini file.