Boxing

[someguy]

it's BS because you see people boxing all the time.. I grouped with this one guy the other day, and he was like "OH this is my girlfriend!" but his other character that he was obviously boxing NEVER said anything and they were both playing at about 50% capacity. the no box rule is a JOKE because there is a server sponsored legit way around it. until we can box, or the 1 ip per house rule is really enforced and there's no loophole around it, i think i'm done.

You see people power leveling their "room mate" all ready, which is taking spawns from newbs who painstakingly take the time to find groups. it's not very fun when you see somone getting power leveled right next to you, with one character JUST SITTING AND CASTING HEAL EVERY 10 minutes.. If that's not boxing, I don't know what is. You can't give people the oppurtunity to box even for 30 minutes and tell everyone else it's a no-go.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by someguy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

with one character JUST SITTING AND CASTING HEAL EVERY 10 minutes.. If that's not boxing, I don't know what is. You can't give people the oppurtunity to box even for 30 minutes and tell everyone else it's a no-go.

That's called "the cleric class". Outside of the rare times we need to pull w/ lull, root/park, or chain stun, you've just desribed exactly what the cleric class does in EQ: Sitting and casting heal every ten minutes.

[Jameus]

Agreed Bubbles! If I didn't participate in group chat I sure would look like I was a box at times. Especially if the group is smooth sailing and there isn't anything crazy going on. Sitting there meditating mana for the next set of heals is the life of a cleric.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My wife plays a chanter, like she did in live for 4yrs, and I've helped her out a little bit! It consisted of her pwning blues in CB while I watched her health and buffed her now and then. This is nothing different than I could do for any guildie at that level. Not boxing but might appear that way for sure. The GM's are watching!! Maybe not 24/7 but they are I'm sure.

[someguy]

yeha cleric is lvl 40+ cleric healing a lvl 14 in oasis! wow! I SHOULD HAVE ROLLED ONE! that's boxing, folks. tell me it's not and ill call you a retard. i wasnt saying the lvl 13 cleric healing lvl 11-13s, but it just becomes unfair when the "room mate" is 40+ healing a teen..

that's why we don't have boxing, yet ppl are still doing just that

[Harazzer]

I can see both sides. Matahari has been openly boxing since day one of the server with a cleric. However I was PL'ing my friend in SOLA the other day on my shaman and probably did look semi boxish if you just saw it happening.

[Jameus]

Originally Posted by someguy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeha cleric is lvl 40+ cleric healing a lvl 14 in oasis! wow! I SHOULD HAVE ROLLED ONE! that's boxing, folks. tell me it's not and ill call you a retard. i wasnt saying the lvl 13 cleric healing lvl 11-13s, but it just becomes unfair when the "room mate" is 40+ healing a teen..

that's why we don't have boxing, yet ppl are still doing just that

Someguy, you make me laugh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Boxing and PL'ing... two entirely different things [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But whatever. You're obviously trying to stir the pot up so have at it lol

[someguy]

All I'm trying to say is, people are boxing. There is clearly a rule against it, yet people are doing it very openly. I have a girlfriend. Does she want to play EQ? Good heavens no. Could I convince her to play for atleast level 1-2, so I could get an IP exemption? Yes. Could I use that to circumvent the rules and box to my heart's content? Absolutley!

Why is there rules if there's very easy ways to get around them? There's people out there boxing VERY obviously, yet the GMs do nothing. So why do I have to lie and cheat if I want to box, instead of just doing it legitly? Seems a little ass backwards to me. If I wanted to pay $20 a month in 1999, I could have easiy done so. I didn't have to lie to Verant and cheat to box, I just had to give them a little extra cash. Seems like the GMs are promoting deception and lies as the server's basic principals.

[nilbog]

There's people out there boxing VERY obviously, yet the GMs do nothing.

You have no idea what the GMs do or have done. If you are talking about a particular individual, why don't you petition it? The blanket statement that the GMs do nothing though is ridiculous. I review the logs of all of them; you are completely wrong.

So why do I have to lie and cheat if I want to box, instead of just doing it legitly?

Because boxing more than 1 client per person is against the server rules.

Seems like the GMs are promoting deception and lies as the server's basic principals.

Nope.

As far as the rest of the thread, I've said my peace.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by someguy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeha cleric is lvl 40+ cleric healing a lvl 14 in oasis! wow! I SHOULD HAVE ROLLED ONE! that's boxing, folks. tell me it's not and ill call you a retard. i wasnt saying the lvl 13 cleric healing lvl 11-13s, but it just becomes unfair when the "room mate" is 40+ healing a teen..

that's why we don't have boxing, yet ppl are still doing just that

Dude... seriously... We're at the point of the server now where I'm handed Enamlled Black Maces to low level monks, buffing anyone I see in a newbie zone with lvl 50 cleric buffs, ppl are saving their corpses in stupidly out of whacked ZEM zones because they know one of the 5 49+ clerics will be by eventually..

Classic Launch is officially over. There's a zillion people artificially 45+, and it's far too late to go back now. It's not so much that boxing and twinking isn't (or won't be) an issue, it's just that it's not nearly the biggest elephant in the room when it comes to why this server is suddenly so out of whack.

If there is some level 50 cleric or druid twinking out some melees in oasis, he's only trying to get the toon to level 20, where he's no longer going to be needed outside of a quick group port to lavastorm. Every person I've told about this server in the last few weeks that has showed up and hit 20+ is just dumbfounded at SolA and how "people who played in 99 would think this is even remotely normal". And I shrug my shoulders and say "too late, dmg done". It's like watching Gordon Ramsey on TV with the girlfriend and not being able to convince her that he's Scottish/British. It's frustrating, but eventually you just basically give up and plan for the next big thing, cuz this is just going in a bad direction.

I'm sitting there during 200+ population peak as the only person in Lower Guk (maybe one other guy camping Evil Eye), and I'm running around picking off 6-7 nameds with enough time for a smoke break before repops.. Simultaneously /w all Soldungb comes back empty, there's 2-3 people camping spectres... There's a group of 6 level 20s killing zone in in mistmoore, there's one necro in unrest, and a pair of 50 shaman in Cazic Thule. Gee... I wonder where everyone could be?

Let's put all the cards on the table. The vision is dead, YOU ALL let it effing happen and stood by idly claiming that it sure "felt" classic.

Well it doesn't. It isn't. And now we got a zillion artificial 50s who are gonna get to log in one or two times a week to race to two dragons. Which was everyones favorite... err least favorite part of the classic experience.

We've seen a Plane of Sky / Hate / Nagafen progression. It's not jealousy, it's me banging my head against my computer desk wondering how people could spend this much time/effort on recreating EQC and being PRESENT for obvious holes in time line. I could care less if a GM was there or not, there's a dozen other people present who actually thought that was a natural flow of things. That's..... EMBARRASSING.... And puts a huge black eye on the server as a whole.

So yeah, you're gonna see *plenty* more level 50s healing people in Oasis. Cuz there isn't much more left to do till 51-60 in Kunark when people might be forced to actually grind legit for the first time. Woo hoo. At least Oasis is now more beneficial for the 50s than South Ro.

Yes we all love this server and are having the times of our lives recreating the experience we had 10 years ago. But once a week I'm good for a painfully long rant on the basics that continue to be mysteriously erroneous and unchanged. Cest La Vie.

[Harazzer]

No cmon, killing a teal gnome at level 47 should give 3% of the level, you must be crazy!