Bring target rings back.

[vinx]

Originally Posted by jdx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whatever though, I'm not arguing the point because I think I'll win and magically make p99 staff allow boxing; i'm just defending boxing in that it would NOT be the cause of a lost "classic" feeling.

Id actually like to see your points.. should start a new "box" thread in RnF so we can all get these new insights [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by jdx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't like boxing, don't play with boxers.

Everyone would just start their own 2 box and then not play with other boxers

Originally Posted by jdx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If classic for YOU meant playing one account at a time, more power to you. If classic for you meant having your box cleric around so you could solo some camps in lower guk, more power to you and QQ ka-choo to those who couldn't lol.

I dont think anyone playing "couldnt" 2 box
everyone has computers that can handle 2-20 boxes so it would be super easy to do 2 even on a POS PC
and it doesnt take much skill to box 2 = everyone would start boxing on P99 = to many variables injected onto the server that would tottally wipe that classic feel of comaraderie that the server aims for
imo, you should play PEQ for boxed progression if thats your style. box capability with expansions open to GoD/OoW (i think)

Aaaand, staying on topic:
on PEQ you can keep your spell sets/ target rings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Spoodowg2000bc]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Translation: P99 staff has created classic EQ for the majority of players. But I am not in that majority, so I will complain about how it should be changed to MY classic implementation, so that the majority should be forced into MY subjective opinion of what classic was.

You're bringing this back to the picking-and-choosing classic thing. Rings could have been removed sooner if they wanted it that way. They chose to leave them in until they chose to remove it. This server is the DEVS subjective opinion of classic was.

My argument is don't leave something that isn't classic in and then take it away at a whim, when people have come to expect it and others could have used it as a crutch for much longer. We can argue about how much it really helps anyone all we want, but that is just as subjective as the discussion of how much the MQ and MySEQ users benefited from that shit.

I'll probably be fine without target rings. I dunno though because I can't get a group as an untwinked melee during raid hours (responsible adult playing time).

[wrxBRAH]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Statistically, we are recreating classic. If you were boxing pre-Luclin, you were an extreme minority for several reasons. It's an accurate representation of active server life, not just subjective opinion.

To recreate a classic experience, the average player you encounter should be an individual, not a player with a robot in tow.

The minority of people on live sold/bought accounts and platinum pre-luclin yet its common practice here. You cant always use the "we're recreating classic" line with a custom server. In the end its your server and your rules so it doesnt matter anyway until they get done on eqclassic and release the code.

[Foxx]

Originally Posted by wrxBRAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The minority of people on live sold/bought accounts and platinum pre-luclin yet its common practice here. You cant always use the "we're recreating classic" line with a custom server. In the end its your server and your rules so it doesnt matter anyway until they get done on eqclassic and release the code.

eqclassic is a myth

[Buellen]

dont matter to me target ring gone. Lots of folks wandering why if this is going classic why not have removed the rings in first place ?? well it seem unlike LIVE these folks who develop this server do so when they can so it would seem logical that they could not dedicate all thier time to sit and removed that non classic stuff prior to release. IN the life of server (i just joined so not sure how long it has been around ) many things had to be fixed so thing got pushed back expansion worked on things got pushed back so finaly for "WHATEVER REASON PVP etc etc" they have to address this isssue and they allocate time to fix it.

It seems folks think that the developrs are here just to work on this project, and from my humble understanding they have life of their own which take up THEIR TIME. YOU may not like what they did and how long it took them to do it , but as many have stated THEIR GOAL was to make this server classic. IF it takes them months years to reach that GOAL and something is changed that makes you unhappy take a deep breath and remember IT NOT YOUR server , it belongs to the developers and they set the rules.

My 2 cents good night

EDIT: before anyone yells , tantrum etc, Yes you can voice your dislike as many of you have , but some of the posters take stance that just because devs work on this project that it should be perfect from release or close to it. THIS SERVER IS NOT THE DEVELOPERRS JOBE so dont expect them to commmit 40hrs plus per week so it will be as close to YOUR vision of classic / non classic. IT IS the developers Vision we just get to play in their playground.

[Runningfish]

Originally Posted by Spoodowg2000bc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're bringing this back to the picking-and-choosing classic thing. Rings could have been removed sooner if they wanted it that way. They chose to leave them in until they chose to remove it. This server is the DEVS subjective opinion of classic was.

My argument is don't leave something that isn't classic in and then take it away at a whim, when people have come to expect it and others could have used it as a crutch for much longer. We can argue about how much it really helps anyone all we want, but that is just as subjective as the discussion of how much the MQ and MySEQ users benefited from that shit.

I'll probably be fine without target rings. I dunno though because I can't get a group as an untwinked melee during raid hours (responsible adult playing time).

You obviously don't understand why this was removed now. Nilbog/the dev's have been wanting to remove maps, rings, and spell sets for a long time. However until a recent improvement it was impossible. Now they can control the client side more, so once they got that control they did what they had been wanting to do for a while. It wasn't like this entire time they could just remove these any time they wanted. A tool had to be developed for them to do this.

Originally Posted by jdx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which as I said, respectfully sir, is your subjective opinion.

As I doubt there is any actual evidence to back his post up it is an opinion. However I think most people will agree that this is an accurate opinion. The vast majority of people playing from OG-velious were not boxing. I honestly can't think of a single person I ran into in game during that time that was. Post Velious however I knew quite a few people that did. It sucks that your view of classic includes boxing and you don't get your version of classic but the vast majority of us weren't boxing and don't want to have boxing on this server.

[karsten]

please bring target rings back

[Titanuk]

say bi bi to target rings and maps ..
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[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Runningfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nilbog/the dev's have been wanting to remove maps, rings, and spell sets for a long time. However until a recent improvement it was impossible. Now they can control the client side more, so once they got that control they did what they had been wanting to do for a while. It wasn't like this entire time they could just remove these any time they wanted. A tool had to be developed for them to do this.

Correct. Brown skeletons/gypsies models were the first fixes provided by the advent of dll client fixes.

This patch, there were more.

Next patch, there will probably be more than that.

[Jigga]

hints at what else can be more Nilby?