Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > General Community > Technical Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-11-2011, 05:00 PM
Mcbard Mcbard is offline
Banned


Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Da U.P. eh
Posts: 992
Default

It's actually the other way around. RHEL is the upstream distribution, and the red hat team releases Fedora for non server platforms, whereas CentOS is a community driven repackaging of an as close to possible RHEL.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-12-2011, 06:42 AM
necrosaurio necrosaurio is offline
Kobold


Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 100
Default

I finally got a successful installation on Ubuntu with the old Nvidia card I had laying around. My tests indicate the following:

ATi, propietary drivers - Only shadows, no textures
ATi, free drivers - Not working at all (missing 3D capabilities)
nVidia, propietary drivers - Works fine
nVidia, free drivers - Not working at all (missing 3D)
Intel 945 (onboard) - Not working, all I get are spots of colour on the "agree to the EULA" and server selection page, no text, nothing.

Thanks a lot for your help [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had to tweak the configuration a bit, as enabling HW Texel and HW shaders or Advanced Lightning makes the game really slow and not respond.

One final issue I have is that the game crashes whenever I minimise the window but I can live with that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next, I will be installing CentOS alongside, to see what happens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-12-2011, 05:38 PM
cadiz cadiz is offline
Kobold

cadiz's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by necrosaurio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I finally got a successful installation on Ubuntu with the old Nvidia card I had laying around. My tests indicate the following:

ATi, propietary drivers - Only shadows, no textures
ATi, free drivers - Not working at all (missing 3D capabilities)
nVidia, propietary drivers - Works fine
nVidia, free drivers - Not working at all (missing 3D)
Intel 945 (onboard) - Not working, all I get are spots of colour on the "agree to the EULA" and server selection page, no text, nothing.

Thanks a lot for your help [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had to tweak the configuration a bit, as enabling HW Texel and HW shaders or Advanced Lightning makes the game really slow and not respond.

One final issue I have is that the game crashes whenever I minimise the window but I can live with that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next, I will be installing CentOS alongside, to see what happens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'd also add that you should disable any windowing effects while you play, I've found this really slows things down if you don't.

I'm running things great on an Thinkpad T510 (Intel 950 onboard I think - uses i915 module) on Fedora 14 x86_64.
__________________
Prexus: (00-04) <Clan nan Dreolan>
Cadiz (70 NEC) epic 1.0
Grumplescratch (65 WAR) epic 1.0
Tzartole (62 MNK) epic 1.0
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-13-2011, 04:59 AM
necrosaurio necrosaurio is offline
Kobold


Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 100
Default

The Fedora 14 RPMs do not work in CentOS due to missing dependencies (liberation-narrow-fonts and similar).

I've left wine 1.3 patched and compiling and installing to /opt. I will check it when I get home.

I plan on creating a standalone RPM of wine-EQ for CentOS 6, with a SPEC file that should allow you to upgrade to the latest version without doing much work.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-13-2011, 04:42 PM
cadiz cadiz is offline
Kobold

cadiz's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by necrosaurio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The Fedora 14 RPMs do not work in CentOS due to missing dependencies (liberation-narrow-fonts and similar).

I've left wine 1.3 patched and compiling and installing to /opt. I will check it when I get home.

I plan on creating a standalone RPM of wine-EQ for CentOS 6, with a SPEC file that should allow you to upgrade to the latest version without doing much work.
The problem with this is the way Fedora/RHEL builds wine, it's a set of modular packages. It seems like a lot of work and slightly inflexible to combine them into one RPM but if you're up for it by all means - building a new spec should work fine it's just a lot of effort.

-=>>rpm -qa | grep wine | wc -l
38

I'm curious, any reason why you wouldn't just run Fedora or a more progressive distribution with newer libraries, or do you have a specific reason to stick to CentOS?
__________________
Prexus: (00-04) <Clan nan Dreolan>
Cadiz (70 NEC) epic 1.0
Grumplescratch (65 WAR) epic 1.0
Tzartole (62 MNK) epic 1.0
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-13-2011, 04:51 PM
cadiz cadiz is offline
Kobold

cadiz's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by necrosaurio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The Fedora 14 RPMs do not work in CentOS due to missing dependencies (liberation-narrow-fonts and similar).

I've left wine 1.3 patched and compiling and installing to /opt. I will check it when I get home.

I plan on creating a standalone RPM of wine-EQ for CentOS 6, with a SPEC file that should allow you to upgrade to the latest version without doing much work.
Do you have the EPEL repos installed? Looks like they are available there
__________________
Prexus: (00-04) <Clan nan Dreolan>
Cadiz (70 NEC) epic 1.0
Grumplescratch (65 WAR) epic 1.0
Tzartole (62 MNK) epic 1.0
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-19-2012, 09:56 AM
sereal sereal is offline
Scrawny Gnoll

sereal's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 26
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by necrosaurio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I finally got a successful installation on Ubuntu with the old Nvidia card I had laying around. My tests indicate the following:

ATi, propietary drivers - Only shadows, no textures
ATi, free drivers - Not working at all (missing 3D capabilities)
nVidia, propietary drivers - Works fine
nVidia, free drivers - Not working at all (missing 3D)
Intel 945 (onboard) - Not working, all I get are spots of colour on the "agree to the EULA" and server selection page, no text, nothing.

Thanks a lot for your help [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had to tweak the configuration a bit, as enabling HW Texel and HW shaders or Advanced Lightning makes the game really slow and not respond.

One final issue I have is that the game crashes whenever I minimise the window but I can live with that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next, I will be installing CentOS alongside, to see what happens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Has anyone had luck with ATI cards? It's been one thing after another with ATI stuff under linux. Got a 6950. It might be time to buy a nvidia card just for linux *sigh*

I really like ATI but man is their shit broken in linux. I had to buy a cheap nvidia card for my xbmc system since boblight wouldn't work with ATI's closed drivers and the open drivers were too slow for xbmc.

The closest I got was mucked up models someone else had - where the bodies were all wacky looking. I got the models showing up completely black too.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-27-2012, 08:53 PM
Joroz Joroz is offline
Kobold


Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 186
Default

turn of vertex shader option in ini and try this for ati cards. Might work on other cards aswell. Shouldn't need to recompile or use any hacked dll's.

* Start wine regedit
* Create key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/wine/Direct3D", create string "UseGLSL", set value to "disabled"
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-12-2011, 06:51 AM
necrosaurio necrosaurio is offline
Kobold


Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 100
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
It's actually the other way around. RHEL is the upstream distribution, and the red hat team releases Fedora for non server platforms, whereas CentOS is a community driven repackaging of an as close to possible RHEL.
This is not correct. RedHat base RHEL on a previous version of Fedora (RHEL 6 is based off Fedora 12 + bits from 13 and 14), which they freeze and tweak and, more importantly, certify for some applications and offer support for a lonnnnng time.

CentOS base their releases on the RHEL sources and mirror as closely as possible the upstream packages.

It works like this Fedora -> RHEL -> CentOS

You can usually install Fedora packages on CentOS but only if they were released near the same time.

You can check here for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-12-2011, 09:15 AM
Mcbard Mcbard is offline
Banned


Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Da U.P. eh
Posts: 992
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by necrosaurio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This is not correct. RedHat base RHEL on a previous version of Fedora (RHEL 6 is based off Fedora 12 + bits from 13 and 14), which they freeze and tweak and, more importantly, certify for some applications and offer support for a lonnnnng time.

CentOS base their releases on the RHEL sources and mirror as closely as possible the upstream packages.

It works like this Fedora -> RHEL -> CentOS

You can usually install Fedora packages on CentOS but only if they were released near the same time.

You can check here for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux
Cool info, I definitely didn't know Fedora was upstream from Redhat, although now that I think about it, it makes pretty damn good sense. Cheers!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:46 AM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.