Who will be going from Blue99 to Red99?

[mokfarg]

Originally Posted by XgrimX [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

man gonna be a lot of people. 80 pvps on red server woot have fun losers

I bet alot of people will be on it a little while just because it's a fresh new start. After that wears off people will most likely move back to project 1999

[georgie]

Originally Posted by mokfarg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bet alot of people will be on it a little while just because it's a fresh new start. After getting griefed off the server people will most likely move back to project 1999

[vinx]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this is true someone should have brought it up sooner. If two players hand in PoD books can they not heal each other?

Yes, they can heal each other but...
its totally NOT the same thing

Turning in your books DOES NOT equate to red pvp
turning in your books on a blue server is basically running around with auto /duel on for anyone else with it on, problem is....
there are tons of players running around with it OFF

That does not = pvp.. pvp opens up contention for item camps, raids and disputes
you cant solve any problems or do any of the above if blues dont want to /duel you (be red)

The other function of turning in your book is...
that it ONLY allows you to recieve beneficial buffs/heals/ports from others who are also red
(to stop anyones blue buddies from creating an unfair battle in a duel type scenerio)

So...
turning in your book opens up pvp capability to other reds, but cripples any long term or any serious play on a blue oriented server
and in short, turning in your book is equal to an enclosed, ongoing multiple duel ability (with limitations)

imo, being able to kill someone on EQ (outside of pnp) goes in this order:
1) duel - (single pvp)
2) turn in your book for "pvp" status - (multiple duels, cut off from the rest of the population)
3) play on a pvp server for "Red" status - (open or general pvp)

So you understand why "Reds" laugh at suggestions when they are asked to turn in their books and play pvp on a blue server
who would in all honesty, create an unfair environment or limit themselves (group/guild) to the rest of the server?

[Demetrium]

Originally Posted by vinx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, they can heal each other but...
its totally NOT the same thing

Turning in your books DOES NOT equate to red pvp
turning in your books on a blue server is basically running around with auto /duel on for anyone else with it on, problem is....
there are tons of players running around with it OFF

That does not = pvp.. pvp opens up contention for item camps, raids and disputes
you cant solve any problems or do any of the above if blues dont want to /duel you (be red)

The other function of turning in your book is...
that it ONLY allows you to recieve beneficial buffs/heals/ports from others who are also red
(to stop anyones blue buddies from creating an unfair battle in a duel type scenerio)

So...
turning in your book opens up pvp capability to other reds, but cripples any long term or any serious play on a blue oriented server
and in short, turning in your book is equal to an enclosed, ongoing multiple duel ability (with limitations)

imo, being able to kill someone on EQ (outside of pnp) goes in this order:
1) duel - (single pvp)
2) turn in your book for "pvp" status - (multiple duels, cut off from the rest of the population)
3) play on a pvp server for "Red" status - (open or general pvp)

So you understand why "Reds" laugh at suggestions when they are asked to turn in their books and play pvp on a blue server
who would in all honesty, create an unfair environment or limit themselves (group/guild) to the rest of the server?

Okay, so this is working how I originally thought. So really the only difference between here (if all who wanted to turned in books) and Red99 would be that you couldn't kill blues out of camps.

Is that really where most of the fun is? I definitely see this being entertaining, but I can also see it losing its novelty pretty quickly. I thought the fun/competition/skill is more about actually combating players rather than doing tricks like engaging them when they're fighting mobs or charming their healer and running him out of the room when they're fighting Ghoul Lord.

[vinx]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, so this is working how I originally thought. So really the only difference between here (if all who wanted to turned in books) and Red99 would be that you couldn't kill blues out of camps.

eh, i guess
If you like to solo your way to the top and not participate in groups or raids
can just farm pixels at your leisure on a pve server (assuming the camp is open)

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that really where most of the fun is? I definitely see this being entertaining, but I can also see it losing its novelty pretty quickly. I thought the fun/competition/skill is more about actually combating players

It is about being able to combat players.
* players who try to take your camp from you
* good guild/group battles for high end mobs
* great for making friends (who you will need at some point or another)
* great for learning more of the game, zones and stats! (also needed for combat)

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rather than doing tricks like engaging them when they're fighting mobs or charming their healer and running him out of the room when they're fighting Ghoul Lord.

This can be fun at times to! (and also sucks at times!)
Its a give an take really, and doesnt happen everytime you engage a mob as long as you stay on your toes and are aware of your environment.
just remember... your NOT on a pve server, you are on a PVP server and you will be fine

[JayDee]

this server gonna be deader than it already is soon

[nalkin]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, so this is working how I originally thought. So really the only difference between here (if all who wanted to turned in books) and Red99 would be that you couldn't kill blues out of camps.

Is that really where most of the fun is? I definitely see this being entertaining, but I can also see it losing its novelty pretty quickly. I thought the fun/competition/skill is more about actually combating players rather than doing tricks like engaging them when they're fighting mobs or charming their healer and running him out of the room when they're fighting Ghoul Lord.

Contesting over camps is probably the most reason anyone would want to play on a red server. Yes, I would say it is that important, at least its the reason I will play on r99.

I think there will be a huge number of players at first, even more than the blue server for the following reasons:

1. Being able to start from scratch at the beginning. Many people missed out on loot they wanted to get (manastone, guise, rubi, etc) and this gives them a chance to do it.
2. Many people are realizing there is nothing to do in blue EQ aside from poopsock. The game consists of sitting there to get gear, only to use that gear to get more gear. There will be alot more entertainment at the endgame on a red server.
3. People are so fed up with poopsocking and not being able to contest over camps.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, so this is working how I originally thought. So really the only difference between here (if all who wanted to turned in books) and Red99 would be that you couldn't kill blues out of camps.

Is that really where most of the fun is? I definitely see this being entertaining, but I can also see it losing its novelty pretty quickly. I thought the fun/competition/skill is more about actually combating players rather than doing tricks like engaging them when they're fighting mobs or charming their healer and running him out of the room when they're fighting Ghoul Lord.

Actually, the last i checked, you couldnt heal or buff people who were red, even if you were red yourself. I remember Stealin went red for a while (still not real sure why) but he told me that if you were red, you couldn't be healed by people even if they were red themselves. It might have been changed, but I doubt it.