Questioning GM Decisions

[G13]

Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because you see everything on this server as TR vs TMO does not make it so. This thread has had a lot of great discussion, and your personal attacks and paranoia do nothing but edge it closer to RnF. By your logic, I could argue that you are trying to derail the thread to get it into the dead-end known as RnF so any discussion that doesn't fit your narrative disappears.

Hyperbole. You're completely ignoring every other guild on this server that is not TMO/TR that has spoken out against this ruling.

Nice job with all of your generalizations about every member of TR, though. At least it makes your intentions transparent.

You're defending your guild whose leadership was caught using a 3rd party hack. Guild disband. Denounce the corruption and prove me wrong then.

I'll re-iterate - the thread is not about what YOU want it to be about. The OP was clearly laid out, you either need to re-read it or admit to being intellectually dishonest and just using it as a soapbox.

The OP is about how HBB wants it to be about. This isn't cold war east germany. Many people disagree. Whether you can accept that or not is no problem of mine, but yours.

[Enygmad]

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Love,

Sworen

[booter]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hyperbole. You're completely ignoring every other guild on this server that is not TMO/TR that has spoken out against this ruling.

I'm not ignoring anyone.

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're defending your guild whose leadership was caught using a 3rd party hack. Guild disband. Denounce the corruption and prove me wrong then.

I'm not defending anyone aside from Rogean/Nilbog. I haven't even explicitly stated whether or not I think the bans should be permanent because I am undecided. Again, you're generalizing and seeing things you want to see. You are under the assumption that everyone in TR wants to welcome Perun back, which is certainly not that case.

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The OP is about how HBB wants it to be about.

Thank you. Maybe you'll re-read what he said and stay on track instead of turning this thread into a crusade. (Hint: he says to make a new post for that, and use the proper channels)

[Eternal-Elf]

Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(Hint: he says to make a new post for that, and use the proper channels)

bahahahaha. MODERATOR HASBIN has SPOKEN!

[booter]

Originally Posted by Eternal-Elf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bahahahaha. MODERATOR HASBIN has SPOKEN!

Yeah, it's unthinkable to stay on topic in one of the rare, useful threads.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Eternal-Elf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bahahahaha. MODERATOR HASBIN has SPOKEN!

Nilbog save us from Mods w/ an agenda

[G13]

Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not ignoring anyone.

Really? Then why did you try to make this into TR vs IB? The only thing I care about are the rules. Either they mean something or they don't. You are a part of this community just as I am. Do the rules matter to you? If you're competing against a rival guild and they are hacking and taking mobs from you, how would that make you feel? Are you going to just "suck it up and keep quiet"?

I'm not defending anyone aside from Rogean/Nilbog. I haven't even explicitly stated whether or not I think the bans should be permanent because I am undecided. Again, you're generalizing and seeing things you want to see. You are under the assumption that everyone in TR wants to welcome Perun back, which is certainly not that case.

Why is the door even open for him to come back? I would like nothing more than Rogean to make an announcement which states the following:

"After further review, we will be permanently banning all accounts that were caught using 3rd party hacks. In the special circumstance where an officer/raid leader of a raiding guild was caught using this program during competitive raids, we will also be raid suspending the offending guild for a period of 2 weeks."

People are acting like this would be outrageous. That's how far in the gutter this server has been dragged through by this mess. It was a critical mistake not to perma ban these accounts.

Thank you. Maybe you'll re-read what he said and stay on track instead of turning this thread into a crusade. (Hint: he says to make a new post for that, and use the proper channels)

If you mean by a crusade for development to be consistent and enforce the rules they put in place, than you're welcome. We wouldn't even be having this disagreement if Perun wasn't caught hacking. Actions have consequences. Instead of attacking everyone else, why aren't you blaming him? Instead your guild is accepting him back. Will plvl him with AOE groups, and fully fund his account with guild bank stash.

Are you telling me you're ok with that?

[Enygmad]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Koota (known hacker/showeq user, caught using hacks to benefit his guild in a raid environment) was unbanned, and welcomed back into Durison's guild. Just sayin'.

Love,

Sworen

[G13]

Originally Posted by Enygmad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Koota (known hacker/showeq user, caught using hacks to benefit his guild in a raid environment) was unbanned, and welcomed back into Durison's guild. Just sayin'.

Love,

Sworen

Why should I care? His account should have been permanently banned and if I was in that guild at the time I would have disbanded immediately. I was never in Fusion or Ascension. Nether was Divinity, Mischief, Reclamation, Taken, or the rest of the community.

Rules > your assumption that guilds are above the rules because your friends are in them. Don't project that fault onto me. You own it. I don't really understand what you are trying to justify exactly? That people shouldn't judge TR for allowing hackers back into their guild? Really?

Nice try though

[Enygmad]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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This picture > your assumption that anyone, least of all the owners of this project, gives two shits about your opinion.

How many times have you been suspended on P99 Bronson? You're hardly a shining example of someone who upholds the rules.

Sworen