almost 80 people in fear

[Audacious93c]

Ha, you caught me Omni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Like this game, its been years since I watched that movie.

[Modus]

Either enforce the rules with consequences or do away with them altogether!

Have fun yall!:

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[Ektar]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Either enforce the rules with consequences or do away with them altogether!

Have fun yall!:

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like, really? Did you read it? Combining all the tells together, Bawaa tells you, "Members of my guild were going to vengefully train you, but I stopped them."

There was confusion in the middle, so disregard the "salty was gonna train his own guild" bit.
And that last one? Obviously sarcasm. He's saying "you're attentive enough to 'see me dotting your mezzed mobs' (that is sarcasm in that he's insulting the claim altogether) but not attentive enough to know what's actually going on?"

I mean, can you really misinterpret that? ALL of you? you must be trolling for shits n giggles...

[Modus]

If you look closely, an IB tracker is wielding a massive black dildo.

I think they're up to something queer.

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[Ektar]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you look closely, an IB tracker is wielding a massive black dildo.

I think they're up to something queer.

Guy, all you got are corpses. And seeing as how Salty trained blaine down a few levels some days ago, I think I know where those corpses came from. Either way, have 2 corpses there without timers gives you nothing. But I see that logic means nothing to this post, so I'm out =p


And hasbin I know about the "at the target" thing; if FB had 500 in the zone and were over at north wall, they weren't at the target. However, I wasn't there and don't find enough evidence to properly say where anyone was. So I ignored that variable. Perhaps I should have said that!

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And hasbin I know about the "at the target" thing

Have rules for Draco's 'at the target' even been defined?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have rules for Draco's 'at the target' even been defined?

Wouldn't the guild that broke fear and was currently clearing the trash mobs so they could move around and engage raid targets have the first rights to attempt Draco? Or on this server can a competing guild take advantage of another guild's plane-break and clearing of trash mobs and start clearing TT's to prep for Draco?

Seems like the winning strategy is to let another guild do all the work breaking/clearing and then while they're occupied with that, bring in your raid force for the juicy stuff?

Kinda sucks if that's the case. Just trying to understand so I know whether to bother playing and leveling up here or not.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't the guild that broke fear and was currently clearing the trash mobs so they could move around and engage raid targets have the first rights to attempt Draco? Or on this server can a competing guild take advantage of another guild's plane-break and clearing of trash mobs and start clearing TT's to prep for Draco?

Seems like the winning strategy is to let another guild do all the work breaking/clearing and then while they're occupied with that, bring in your raid force for the juicy stuff?

Kinda sucks if that's the case. Just trying to understand so I know whether to bother playing and leveling up here or not.

Don't let all this discourage you. There are plans in the works to resolve the situation. You WILL have fun at hi-end on P99.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have rules for Draco's 'at the target' even been defined?

No. However, I would think that common sense indicates that it means "no mobs between you and the target," barring some other agreement (which doesn't currently exist).

That's just my opinion, and I honestly don't think that kind of interpretation is ethical, because FB had cleared all the mobs between them and draco before anyone else, and I think that should be worth something. However, we're not really dealing with an ethical group of people here, so you have to do what you can right?

Anyone else have a better interpretation of "at the target?"

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And hasbin I know about the "at the target" thing; if FB had 500 in the zone and were over at north wall, they weren't at the target.

They were along the southwest edge of the firewall, not at the traditional draco stage, but there were no mobs between them and draco. Trust me dude, it pains me to back up FB, but this is truth. Divinity was also in position, WNW and within spitting distance of the traditional spot, with no mobs between them and draco. IB was far to the southwest, closer to the fetid house, still dealing with the tents they pulled. I know all this because I was snuck on the north ramp of the bridge (above the traditional draco spot), watching it all go down. Common sense would dictate that FB (who cleared all the mobs between them and draco first) would have claim to the target. A literal interpretation of the rules would dictate that divinity was the first guild to have a clear path to pull draco (thus being "at the target" first). IB was not even in the running. FB tried to engage and got adds so feigned (not at the target). Barfight engaged cleanly (at the target), but got feared and died. FB re-engaged at that point, with no adds (at the target), but started to wipe. This would have left divinity with the mob (at the target first, and with common sense logic, 2nd in line), but IB decided they wanted the mob and ran up from way back in the SW to try for a blatant KS, presumably leading Rogean to depop the mob.

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However, I wasn't there

I was. So was Rogean. That he backed FB up should speak to you. I think in this situation, there was enough confusion to understand why no punishments have been meted out, but this is what went down. As to why he left up the second draco.. Eh, who can fathom the mind of Rogean? I honestly just hope that on Thursday you guys can hammer something solid out so that situations like this don't happen again.