Xzerion says TR isn't shown favoritism?

[G13]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is your question specific to TR? Every single raiding guild was guilty of having players who got suspended.. why single out TR? Seems like a biased question.



We could raid suspend yes, but that would result in every raid-capable guild being suspended... in which case it would result in the players deguilding for the duration of the suspension to raid anyways.

Which TMO Officers were found to be using Show EQ

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which TMO Officers were found to be using Show EQ

What does officer have to do with it? Koota wasn't an officer. He was using it to track.

Atleast that was the point of that situation.

[Enygma]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does officer have to do with it? Koota wasn't an officer. He was using it to track.

Atleast that was the point of that situation.

The reason we were given was because he was an "officer", was the reason Dark Ascension was raid suspended and Koota wasn't just banned.

DA had brought up the fact that there is no way for them to know if someone is cheating or not so why hold the entire guild accountable? The reason was Koota is an Officer and the guild must be held accountable for the Officer's actions because he represents the guild to a higher degree.

I appreciate the answers Rogean.

Thanks,

Sworen

[G13]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does officer have to do with it? Koota wasn't an officer. He was using it to track.

Atleast that was the point of that situation.

Which is exactly my point

An officer of a raiding guild using a hack is a much more serious offense to the rules you have put in place than that of a member doing it. I believe them because as we've seen, Durison, or any officer for TMO for that matter, were not caught using a hack. They were playing by the rules. YOUR rules. Officers can't police every member, but they dam sure better be able to police themselves wouldn't you agree? Otherwise this is just a corrupt box with no discipline or order.

This has nothing to do with accusations leveled at Xzerion. This has everything to do with an officer of TR admitting publicly he was cheating while competing against a rival guild.

In this instance it's TR's leadership that is responsible for either being ignorant of Perun's cheating or complicit in it. Either way, they are responsible.

So that means your punishment should be that much more severe. So how long are you going to make TR's raid suspension be. DA was raid suspended for a total of one month. I think an appropriate ruling should be one month for TR.

[CHusk2]

Without even getting into specifics I can cite numerous instances of extreme dicketry by TR. Just last night I was with a group in KC when TR busts in, shouts for everyone who isn't TR to get out of the zone, then proceeds to train everyone who doesn't leave. Fuck TR.

[johnny ringo]

Originally Posted by CHusk2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without even getting into specifics I can cite numerous instances of extreme dicketry by TR. Just last night I was with a group in KC when TR busts in, shouts for everyone who isn't TR to get out of the zone, then proceeds to train everyone who doesn't leave. Fuck TR.

lmfao

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by CHusk2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without even getting into specifics I can cite numerous instances of extreme dicketry by TR. Just last night I was with a group in KC when TR busts in, shouts for everyone who isn't TR to get out of the zone, then proceeds to train everyone who doesn't leave. Fuck TR.

and you petitioned about this - right? because i always make sure to investigate every petition if i happen to get them and this is totally unacceptable.

[Robben]

Originally Posted by CHusk2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without even getting into specifics I can cite numerous instances of extreme dicketry by TR. Just last night I was with a group in KC when TR busts in, shouts for everyone who isn't TR to get out of the zone, then proceeds to train everyone who doesn't leave. Fuck TR.

Sounds like a great group of guys

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which is exactly my point

An officer of a raiding guild using a hack is a much more serious offense to the rules you have put in place than that of a member doing it. I believe them because as we've seen, Durison, or any officer for TMO for that matter, were not caught using a hack. They were playing by the rules. YOUR rules. Officers can't police every member, but they dam sure better be able to police themselves wouldn't you agree? Otherwise this is just a corrupt box with no discipline or order.

This has nothing to do with accusations leveled at Xzerion. This has everything to do with an officer of TR admitting publicly he was cheating while competing against a rival guild.

In this instance it's TR's leadership that is responsible for either being ignorant of Perun's cheating or complicit in it. Either way, they are responsible.

So that means your punishment should be that much more severe. So how long are you going to make TR's raid suspension be. DA was raid suspended for a total of one month. I think an appropriate ruling should be one month for TR.

Durison = Winterfresh

Argument nullified by stupidity and butthurt biased crying.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Durison = Winterfresh

Argument nullified by stupidity and butthurt biased crying.

don't be an idiot, dude.

right now the punishment for training is practically equal if not slightly less harsh than SEQ/MQ. that's a god damn shame.

furthermore, TR/IB has had trainers suspended in the past but it has nothing to do with SEQ/MQ and using third-party cheats to benefit an entire guild and dick another guild over.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If any guilds get raid suspensions, it would be all of them. If that's what you want I will consider it. I asked the raid guilds to start working with eachother and getting along and you still cannot go one week without multiple raid disputes and rule lawyering.

now tell me with a straight face that all guilds are being equally assholes to each other and the rest of the server. it's been tried and people got fed up, wanna know why? because it's the 2 with the loudest mouths and that budge the least that get the most attention. it also turns out that they're the two that cause the biggest shitstorms and are in some form or another responsible for what's taken place. you've got to quit pandering