Poll: Should the Management have been harsher with the 365 cheaters?

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Seaweedpimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no ill will vs kb, i dont really know him that well but he says he used it to get his seb key, which imo isnt that terrrible.

I am worried about these programs past lvl 55. This is where it starts to get bad.

It's pretty bad. KB is the guy running around with 300k of gear, too. Let that sink in and then say he's not that terrible. Check out his join date.

[Humerox]

Kill 'em all, and let Uthgaard sort 'em out.

Seriously tho, a case-by-case evaluation would be a huge undertaking. In KB's particular case, what punishment a lot of us want may not fit the crime, but he understood the risk when he hit the "download" button.

[KB_Trader]

All of which was GIVEN to me by various friends. Yeah bro I used show eq to hack my level 53 warrior to a fungi tunic even though I had the tunic long before I had the key. The one time I used show eq was for a fucking seb key. Did I have some moral objection to using it again? No, it just wasn't that fucking helpful to be honest.

Is it an advantage? Sure. Is it even a tenth as significant as people are making it out to be? Hardly.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by KB_Trader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of which was GIVEN to me by various friends. Yeah bro I used show eq to hack my level 53 warrior to a fungi tunic even though I had the tunic long before I had the key. The one time I used show eq was for a fucking seb key. Did I have some moral objection to using it again? No, it just wasn't that fucking helpful to be honest.

Is it an advantage? Sure. Is it even a tenth as significant as people are making it out to be? Hardly.

you mean having an entire zone mapped out for you realtime and not having to sit there on a tracker actively tracking and sleeping while a "ding" wakes you up to the raid target spawning isn't a massive advantage? how about the fact the poor saps who didn't use it at all get kicked in the nuts?

[Kope]

Originally Posted by KB_Trader [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it an advantage? Sure. Is it even a tenth as significant as people are making it out to be? Hardly.

People generally aren't angry about one seb key KB, they're angry about entire guilds getting an edge by camping a "tracker" in a zone where they know a mob is going to pop with an automatic batphone script in it. This is ridiculous and it's been going on so long (with people's knowledge) that it's now blowing up.

Yes, you shouldn't have done that, but is everyone angry at you specifically? Probalby a bit but not for the most part.

[KB_Trader]

Originally Posted by Kope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People generally aren't angry about one seb key KB, they're angry about entire guilds getting an edge by camping a "tracker" in a zone where they know a mob is going to pop with an automatic batphone script in it. This is ridiculous and it's been going on so long (with people's knowledge) that it's now blowing up.

Yes, you shouldn't have done that, but is everyone angry at you specifically? Probalby a bit but not for the most part.

Which, as I said before, isn't too big of a portion of the people banned. I'd say it's less than 3%. There's pretty much 2 guilds who would take the time to track the mobs, so even if each guild had 5 trackers, that's a very small percent. Everyone saying DELETE ALL DER SEQ'D LOOTS isn't interested in differentiating between individuals. They just want the mass lot of them banned. That's not even getting into the fact that the people who were using tracking bots were more than likely doing it on a seperate account and slipped underneath detection which just furthers my point that punishing the people who have been suspended more isn't even affecting the serious offenders.