Some thoughts about cheating on P1999

[mala]

Mullling over the whole morality thing, some jerk ran a stop sign in front of me this morning. I had two choices - to brake and let them pass, or to pull in front of them and get hit. I had a few choice things to say as well.

Why would someone who broke the rules and got away with it in the big blue zone bug me? I suppose the consequences for his actions are quite a bit more concrete. Had I been less alert and proceeded when my turn at the 4-way came around, my care would be damaged and I might be hurt. This person also poses a genuine threat to others in the area. Children often ride bikes across this intersection.

Although i can see slight parallels in someone disobeying traffic laws and someone cheating a server, comparing the two is ridiculous. When driving a car i know that i can speed and the repercussions of which would be a ticket, we all know how a car and traffic laws work. Im sure a fair amount of the people that play here had no idea these hacks even existed (i didnt), and especially to the extent of what they can do. Now if i saw someone flying down the road going 400mph in a honda civic id prolly have some questions. THAT would be comparable to seeing a cleric on here tracking down mobs in SK, people clearly bending the rules of whats possible. I had no idea you could even use a tracking program, so where would i begin to ask?
Breaking the rules is one thing, using a 3rd party program to completely twist the physics of the world is a complete other crock of shit.

And using the traffic ticket scenario once more, i think these people caught cheating should be banned outright, just as the disclaimer in the rules states. If im caught running down a pedestrian, im gunna goto jail, regardless of how many other drivers are mowing down pedestrians with me at the time.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by mala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people clearly bending the rules of whats possible. I had no idea you could even use a tracking program, so where would i begin to ask?

Instead of trying to track the mob, you must first realize that there is no mob to track.

Don't take the red pill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vohl]

The Hackney riots come to mind.

A lot of people did a lot of illegal things - looting, vandalism, assault and worse. British parliament had a fairly spirited discussion about how the legal precedings would be handled. Among other things, there was the question of whether or not the event qualified as civil unrest due to a failure of the state.

It apparently did not; parliament decided on regular law enforcement. Still, it's a recent example of the scope of a problem calling for the consideration of exceptional enforcement.

I'm a bit surprised that cheating is seen as worse in context than cutting someone off in traffic. The potential consequences seem worse by far to me when considering what a half ton chunk of metal could do.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a bit surprised that cheating is seen as worse in context than cutting someone off in traffic. The potential consequences seem worse by far to me when considering what a half ton chunk of metal could do.

Well we're talking in the server-specific section on an emulated Everquest-related server board, not an automotive forum.

Serious business only applies in those areas where serious business should be applied.

[superapan]

Most MQ-users didn't wanna get caught, and thus only used the "safe" plugins, mostly being the map. The fungi-duping is just nonsense.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a bit surprised that cheating is seen as worse in context than cutting someone off in traffic. The potential consequences seem worse by far to me when considering what a half ton chunk of metal could do.

The consequences are certainly worse, it's the motive that people dislike. It takes half a second to cut someone off. Cheating takes effort and preparation especially if you don't want to be caught.

I liken it to someone cheating in one of those gigantic 100-level college courses. Does it hurt me? No, assuming a curve isn't being used, but it is still unethical, and it would still make me furious that someone was getting the same credit that I was without putting in the same amount of work.

[Vohl]

The motive seems to be there in either case, but I see what you mean. The difference is in the preparation. "Premeditation" is the word used in court.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The motive seems to be there in either case, but I see what you mean. The difference is in the preparation. "Premeditation" is the word used in court.

Heh..I guess when I cut people off I never plan to. My truck has abnormal blindspots.