"Banned" people are like "Sinners" arguing with God

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love using this when some militant atheist moron spews inaccuracies as fact.

Yeah, it's kind of a pop atheist thing to be reactionary against the church or religion without recognizing the central idea that validated the atrocities - the exaltation of the collective against the individual.

The means is irrelevant - what's always present is the idea that the individual is less valuable than either *the* collective or a specific collective. I.e. that people are only valuable as they're part of a desired grouping as opposed to intrinsically valuable by virtue of being an individual human being, and violent atrocities against individuals are justifiable if it accomplishes some collective purpose.

You can justify that by religion, atheism, politics, whatever...So the means is irrelevant to the act itself.

I do support the idea that science and atheism are far more powerful in terms of justification to trample individuals to support a privileged group than religion ever could be because they strip out the window dressing of unconditional love that some religions accept - Science/Atheism kind of lacks this cognitive dissonance.