Stormfeather rules need to change

[grims]

TLDR: I aim to make this camp easier for self campers, unlike a lot of the previous sellers I give TOD / list people and leave after every camp

Just ask for a TOD its a lot easier than floating a bunch of raged out conspiracy theories.

Also no one is going to be there permanently for a camp that takes up to 75 hours to spawn and able to respond people would be dying of heart attacks.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This happens on P99 already without your rules.

No it doesn't, not with anywhere close to the regularity that it should. Your suggestion that "anyone can take a camp away from a nolifer if they just sit there long enough and wait for them to be AFK after it spawns" is ridiculous. That would require you to also be a nolifer (and even then it could be weeks before you find an opening where the camp isn't handed off within the guild/farm crew), aside from extremely rare lucky opportunities of catching someone AFK when you immediately get to a camp.

And the factual classic EQ rules are not "my rules". But sure, keep ruining another thread with your constantly wrong, dumb, repetitive strawmans.

[grims]

This rule change would only make the camp 1000% worse all bullshit defamation and slander aside (0 proof lies and easily disprovable).

All the other options are absolutely horrible outside of the system we have now.

A 75 hour random camp? What would it be everyone waits on every window until it pops and rolls wasting everyone's time?

Roll at the start of every window after spawn? It will never be tracked.

List where you cant log and loot on your alt? Sounds awful for an item usable at level 1

All the options are absolutely horrible, just ask for a TOD like a normal person if there is someone breaking the rules and not leaving camp after a spawn petition them and they will get kicked from camp.

I follow all the camp rules and make it easier for people self camping because I TOD use common sense on a camp that can rando spawn once every 75 hours your torturing yourself not asking for ego.

I only wish you messaged me to ask about any of this instead of making completely unfounded accusations.

The camp has been open during 7 day raids on every cycle and after (3+ of them your guildies got the camp) if you just checked fkin bull boxing accusations disgusting.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it doesn't, not with anywhere close to the regularity that it should. Your suggestion that "anyone can take a camp away from a nolifer if they just sit there long enough and wait for them to be AFK after it spawns" is ridiculous. That would require you to also be a nolifer (and even then it could be weeks before you find an opening where the camp isn't handed off within the guild/farm crew), aside from extremely rare lucky opportunities of catching someone AFK when you immediately get to a camp.

And the factual classic EQ rules are not "my rules". But sure, keep ruining another thread with your constantly wrong, dumb, repetitive strawmans.

He still can't admit he is wrong. I've seen Shiny Brass Idol camp taken by another guild and random players via watching the camp and waiting for a mistake to occur. This has happened quite a few times. I even have logs of guild chat when someone has to leave idol camp, and nobody steps up to replace them.

[grims]

Been waiting and covering my ass for someone to push these lies
Have countless other videos and text checking camp it being open and logging off

The camp has not been open for 4 months is complete bull btw. Guy never once asked for a TOD and rarely checked if it was even open.
I would have gladly given TOD's on every death I knew about (including ones that are not my own) if they just asked.

Redacting names so no one else has to deal with these lies.

This is only to track TOD after the camp has been open going into next window. (15 hours between windows)

Also calling bullshit on the last he relists instantly! Also another lie.

Take camp:
[Mon Jun 15 04:29:02 2026] Auragrimhc -> X: AFK Message: Feel free to take #1 in camp, just here for a tod ^ ^. Discord "grim03743" if looking for a camp service

[Sun Jun 14 16:22:43 2026] Auragrimhc -> X: AFK Message: Feel free to take #1 in camp, just here for a tod ^ ^. Discord "grim03743" if looking for a camp service

For redundancy leaving it to feel free to take #1 and only posting 1 per day, there are often 6+ messages in one day for someone to take the camp as I make trades / help port / give people free items / help people know lodi windows.

[Sat Jun 13 22:08:21 2026] Auragrimhc -> X : AFK Message: Feel free to take #1 in camp

[Sat Jun 06 22:46:20 2026] Auragrimhc -> X : AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Sun May 10 03:11:00 2026] Auragrimhc -> X : AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Tue Apr 28 13:18:08 2026] Auragrimhc -> X : AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Mon Apr 13 21:27:57 2026] Auragrimhc -> X : AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Tue Apr 07 11:32:27 2026] Auragrimhc -> X : AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Sun Apr 05 21:09:02 2026] Auragrimhc -> X : AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Sat Apr 04 22:53:20 2026] Auragrimhc -> X: AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Tue Mar 31 01:29:58 2026] Auragrimhc -> X: AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Fri Mar 13 09:56:05 2026] Auragrimhc -> X: AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Sun Mar 08 20:38:02 2026] Auragrimhc -> X: AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Sat Mar 07 21:06:02 2026] Auragrimhc -> X: AFK Message: feel free to take #1

[Mon Mar 02 20:12:30 2026] Ambientwarmth -> X: AFK Message: Feel free to take #1

[Fri Feb 13 10:48:12 2026] Ambientwarmth -> X: AFK Message: Hey ^ ^, just here for time of death good luck / feel free to claim #1

[Fri Feb 13 10:48:56 2026] X -> Ambientwarmth: Ahh Okay ..... I am gonna take #1 on list spot & thank you

[cd288]

I don't have a dog in this fight but writing logs into a post like that doesn't prove anything IMO. You could've just manually written that. You also didn't include names...are the logs not real is that why?

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't have a dog in this fight but writing logs into a post like that doesn't prove anything IMO. You could've just manually written that. You also didn't include names...are the logs not real is that why?

Here is a screenshot of Grim giving away Stormfeather to anyone interested. Happy now? It's totally real, just like the logs and other screenshots and videos that are absolutely incapable of being faked due to how smart and perceptive we all are.

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[tiger32kw]

Grims you are conveniently leaving out that somewhere between 20-50% of all Stormfeathers for the past two years have gone straight to your pocket. You have made so much plat off the camp you are auctioning to buy millions of plat worth of high-end raid items. Whether you know it or not you are discouraging people from participating in the camp when you give your spiel about how you are doing them a favor by charging almost 20k for loot rights. Just do something else in the game. Go actively farm something. Is two years of holding and managing the same camp not long enough?

[red_demonman]

I think in general people should get the loot for their character and move on and stop being an unnecessary stepping stone for others. Just put an account lockout of like 6 months or something idk.

[Defo]

Originally Posted by tiger32kw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whether you know it or not you are discouraging people from participating in the camp

It's already an extremely tedious camp, something that I just wrote off I will never achieve - but I agree here. I've decided to completely bypass this quest because I see the auctions for loot rights constantly. I assume there is always someone there camping it.