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Old 06-18-2026, 12:49 PM
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I provided the evidence years ago https://youtu.be/1gdAIheodtY?is=jhFEYRNkVKvAjI9E
That isn't evidence of better DPS (you did approximately 55), nor is that classic EQ. Your roots will be breaking more frequently in the real game.
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Old 06-18-2026, 01:13 PM
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That isn't evidence of better DPS (you did approximately 55), nor is that classic EQ. Your roots will be breaking more frequently in the real game.
Lying about my position again. More proof of your trolling and/or reading comprehension issues. Also, we are talking about P99, not your memory of EQ. This video is real P99 lol.

You can check the post history. Even Crede read my posts correctly when he said "similar". It is a lie when people claim I said Shamans can consistently do better DPS than a non-epic mage. Here is a short explaination if you want the context: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=5729

This video was an example of doing frenzy while a group below kills trash. I never claimed that was my best gameplay. I was barely trying, and you say I did at least 55 DPS. Shaman pet would add another 15 DPS or so if I had bothered to use it.

And you don't need to take my word for it. Even Troxx, one of my biggest detractors, was doing 80 DPS with his Shaman:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=5723

The best focused water pet does around ~65 DPS from the data I've seen. If you are spamming https://wiki.project1999.com/Boots_of_Bladecalling that is another 35 DPS. So a "normal" non-epic mage is doing around 100 DPS. Damage shield damage is highly variable, depending on whos tanking, how fast the mob dies, if the mob is slowed or not, etc.

Most high level groups are not going to care about +30 DPS when compared to the utility a Shaman can provide.
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Old 06-18-2026, 02:15 PM
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Lying about my position again.
Nope, that's just your own constant lack of comprehension and distortion. 55 DPS is not the same as doing 110 DPS. The semantic of "same" or "more" is irrelevant since you failed to show the ability to do the same amount of DPS, but of course you try to latch onto a strawman.

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Also, we are talking about P99
p99 is supposed to be as accurate of a recreation of classic EQ as possible, and has those changes coming.

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Damage shield damage is highly variable
Not over time, you can't just discount it.

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Shaman pet would add another 15 DPS or so if I had bothered to use it.
You won't be able to use Shaman pet there, it's going to be too far away to take commands.
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Old 06-18-2026, 02:25 PM
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Nope, that's just your own constant lack of comprehension and distortion. 55 DPS is not the same as doing 110 DPS. The semantic of "same" or "more" is irrelevant since you failed to show the ability to do the same amount of DPS, but of course you try to latch onto a strawman.



p99 is supposed to be as accurate of a recreation of classic EQ as possible, and has those changes coming.



Not over time, you can't just discount it.



You won't be able to use Shaman pet there, it's going to be too far away to take commands.
You didin't read my previous post. You just look like a clown.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...6&postcount=96

The simple fact that you didn't even read Troxx doing 80 DPS with his Shaman, and he literally has "The sands of DSM's Vagina" as his location shows you cannot have a debate in good faith. Everybody already knows this though.

I can keep farming evidence of your trolling and lack of reading if you want, but you are just making yourself look foolish. It is shocking that you think you have the upper hand here.

If you had read the post I linked:

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Mages without Epic are doing more like 65 DPS via Water Pet, 16 DPS via Damage Shield, and 25 DPS from something like Burnt Wood Staff. So something like 106 DPS, or 116 DPS with Boots of Bladecalling if memory serves. If the mob is 75% slowed, you'd lose 12 DPS from the Damage shield, so 94 DPS to 102 DPS.
I have already taken damage shield into account. That is why I said +30 DPS instead of +20 DPS. ~110 Mage DPS - ~80 Shaman DPS = 30 DPS. I said damage shield damage is variable because it's true. I don't want to claim a mage is always getting full damage shield DPS, because that isn't true.

If you want to claim high level groups desparately need 30 DPS, you'll need to provide some example camps and group compositions.
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