Chardok exploitation hurting the spirit of the game

[druidbob]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are two distinct possibilities here. Either Nilbog is a moron who has decided to release an unclassic game-breaking patch after over a decade of responsibly stewarding this entire project ..

... or he's making a reasonable change to make things more classic (as he's done with every other release) ... and sammohung should change his name to sammoChickenLittle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, mad respect to Nilbog and the p99 team, but let's not sit here and pretend that every change and update made over the years has been purely to make the game more classic. Rooted dragons are not classic. Lifetap nerf is not classic. Adding casting times to previously instant click items was not classic. "But people didn't use those strats on live!" Is not the same thing as "this was not possible to do on live." But hey, at least we can't see dot damage anymore, right?

[Jimjam]

I don’t see why csr / raid / clicky* driven non-classic changes mean we can’t embrace changes from non-classic to more / true classic.


*for the record I’m not personally a fan of nerfing lifetaps or clicky cast times / buy backs for the sake of influencing end game raiding, but it’s not my server to make that call.

[Mortdecai99]

GMs are not supposed to enter Veeshan's Peak.

[druidbob]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t see why csr / raid / clicky* driven non-classic changes mean we can’t embrace changes from non-classic to more / true classic.


*for the record I’m not personally a fan of nerfing lifetaps or clicky cast times / buy backs for the sake of influencing end game raiding, but it’s not my server to make that call.

I'm not arguing for or against those particular changes, but the fact that they were added fundamentally makes this a non classic server, so to turn around and act purist about things like dot damage and pet windows seems silly. It's always the changes that reduce QoL that seem to draw the most "too bad not classic, deal with it" responses.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are two distinct possibilities here. Either Nilbog is a moron who has decided to release an unclassic game-breaking patch after over a decade of responsibly stewarding this entire project ..

... or he's making a reasonable change to make things more classic (as he's done with every other release) ... and sammohung should change his name to sammoChickenLittle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one cares Loramin

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who pissed in your coffee?

You don't even play p99 anymore, do you? You're a forum poster, with no real knowledge of the server in it's current state.

So sit down, shut up and go back to your hole that you crawled out of.

Yeah, but maybe that's BECAUSE HE WORKS.

Wait. It's 2026. People still are working? Damn. Make some plans, jeez.

Let's not quarrel.

Serious question. What do any of us have that each of us don't have either figuratively or literally?

[Sonderbeast]

You have people in Chardok?

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Mortdecai99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GMs are not supposed to enter Veeshan's Peak.

To help people. There, its fixed.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who pissed in your coffee?

You don't even play p99 anymore, do you? You're a forum poster, with no real knowledge of the server in it's current state.

So sit down, shut up and go back to your hole that you crawled out of.

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[Nickelback8469]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you actually played in classic, you'd know that P99 has been unclassic for a very, very long time. As I've repeated often over more than a decade playing here: Enchanters were never the solo gods of classic. Hell, they weren't even in the top 3 of solo classes!

Now you (or anyone) can decide to be like Chicken Little, claim the sky is falling, and blame the people who worked incredibly hard to make this place more classic ... or you can celebrate the fact that, after all this time, you finally get to play classic EverQuest.

I hear it was a pretty good game ... maybe even a better game than the partial re-creation that you've gotten used to?

How much of a difference between the "Classic" Enchanter experience versus what we see today in P99 would you attribute to better computers and more reliable internet connections? I think most people can agree that 26 years ago Enchanters weren't the soloing gods that we see today, but even if the code was perfectly restored on P99 to match what was seen on Live, I still believe that current knowledge of game mechanics combined with faster and more reliable internet speeds would change the "Classic" experience completely.

Are you arguing that the mechanics on P99 should emulate what was coded in 1999-2000 or that the code on P99 should be changed to force Enchanters to play like how the class was playing in 1999-2000?