Critical Fail Combines are Amazing

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just wanna poke in with a question;

Does anyone remember a bunch of triv 15 stuff being essentially no-fail comines? Like making silk threads with tailoring?

I don't remember any tradeskill combines being truly no-fail; I think there was always a 5% failure rate on even the most trivial combine.

I believe there were no-fail combines, but they were only combines for quests (like the Brewing one for the Tunare Cleric root neck).

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly it would make sense because when you're done with wu armor (148?), the most accessible way to skill up is velious armor and the vast majority of that is trivial at 335, meaning until you reach 200ish you have a 5% success rate, meaning your skill up rate is basically the failure skill up rate. This would be harsher than it would need to be but this is also everquest.

I have enough mats banked to make a couple hundred tailoring combines and I plan on farming more so if you have something you want me to gather stats on, I can do it.

Yes exactly.

The really frustrating thing about trying to find proof one way or the other is the misinformation. There were so many wrong ideas about tradeskilling (eg. that holding a tradeskiill book while you combined increased your success rate).

Even the people that tried to be objective did so with relatively small datasets of < 100 combines, and because the RNG was so streaky you couldn't draw proper conclusions from such data.

That's why it kills me that I can't find the one player who did a proper analysis, with hundreds of combines, specifically to answer this question. I know he existed (and based on another post I found, I think he was an Ogre), but his proof of the mechanics seems to have been completely scrubbed from the internet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't remember any tradeskill combines being truly no-fail; I think there was always a 5% failure rate on even the most trivial combine.

I believe there were no-fail combines, but they were only combines for quests (like the Brewing one for the Tunare Cleric root neck).



Yes exactly.

The really frustrating thing about trying to find proof one way or the other is the misinformation. There were so many wrong ideas about tradeskilling (eg. that holding a tradeskiill book while you combined increased your success rate).

Even the people that tried to be objective did so with relatively small datasets of < 100 combines, and because the RNG was so streaky you couldn't draw proper conclusions from such data.

That's why it kills me that I can't find the one player who did a proper analysis, with hundreds of combines, specifically to answer this question. I know he existed (and based on another post I found, I think he was an Ogre), but his proof of the mechanics seems to have been completely scrubbed from the internet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ogre? Evidence scrubbed from the web? Sounds more like a troll! Seriously though, I hope you find your post. I try to keep an eye open when I’m surfing Dolalin’s.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oof. sorry you don't got "sorry you don't got" retort.

Haha Bastard i missed this!