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Old 09-30-2025, 08:22 PM
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Subjectively, which combo felt best / lowest stress? Really only metric that matters for soloing. Primal bow pulls for avatar + Meljeldin, Bane of the Giants feels best for me, but EC + Whip is stupid good sustain.
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Old 09-30-2025, 08:46 PM
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Subjectively, which combo felt best / lowest stress? Really only metric that matters for soloing. Primal bow pulls for avatar + Meljeldin, Bane of the Giants feels best for me, but EC + Whip is stupid good sustain.
That’s a good question. The brain is tricky because I was probably the most comfortable with the Meljeldin just logically knowing I’d get bigger ripostes and get hit by less. I’m used to a lumpy 2h and for most stuff it’s my go-to. The DW dps combo was concerning as I was hoping of 100dd procs, despite being rather close (statistically).

The EC and Whip initially was freaky knowing it was a bit of a gimmick. I didn’t factor how many times an offhand weapon will still proc, or that when running id preproc a rune for the next fight. The whip in the MH on a slowed Geo the ranger felt more like a real melee. One fight I pulled two and rooted one, then killed then back to back. Maybe two greens but with an early slow proc on the first I wasn’t worried at all.
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Old 09-30-2025, 09:50 PM
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That’s a good question. The brain is tricky because I was probably the most comfortable with the Meljeldin just logically knowing I’d get bigger ripostes and get hit by less. I’m used to a lumpy 2h and for most stuff it’s my go-to. The DW dps combo was concerning as I was hoping of 100dd procs, despite being rather close (statistically).

The EC and Whip initially was freaky knowing it was a bit of a gimmick. I didn’t factor how many times an offhand weapon will still proc, or that when running id preproc a rune for the next fight. The whip in the MH on a slowed Geo the ranger felt more like a real melee. One fight I pulled two and rooted one, then killed then back to back. Maybe two greens but with an early slow proc on the first I wasn’t worried at all.
so ya parsed about same 1h and 2h, but 1h would reposite more. the gimick of earthcaller and silver whip did half the dmg roughly which is terrible, id rather sit/heal/have c2 and chill than take half the time getting beat with ranger defense. sure slow off the rip is nice but we know how proccing goes. to each their own i aint gonna rely on procs tho.
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Old 09-30-2025, 10:03 PM
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so ya parsed about same 1h and 2h, but 1h would reposite more. the gimick of earthcaller and silver whip did half the dmg roughly which is terrible, id rather sit/heal/have c2 and chill than take half the time getting beat with ranger defense. sure slow off the rip is nice but we know how proccing goes. to each their own i aint gonna rely on procs tho.
Oh I get that too. I don’t like gambling but should I have to tank stuff it’s a solid answer. Besides just logging in a tank of course.
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Old 09-30-2025, 10:40 PM
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Oh I get that too. I don’t like gambling but should I have to tank stuff it’s a solid answer. Besides just logging in a tank of course.
so is killing it twice as fast so you aint getting beat on. more dps=less dmg you take. people here dont seem to get that. can slow weapons be optimal? if you have god rng sure. can they be useful in small grouping where you are the tank and the mobs are harder than you can solo ie: juggs? sure. will i use it just grinding blue con mobs? no.
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Old 09-30-2025, 11:59 PM
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so is killing it twice as fast so you aint getting beat on. more dps=less dmg you take. people here dont seem to get that. can slow weapons be optimal? if you have god rng sure. can they be useful in small grouping where you are the tank and the mobs are harder than you can solo ie: juggs? sure. will i use it just grinding blue con mobs? no.
I was very intentionally not trying to put my thumb on the scale. The testing was mostly out of curiosity as I expected more dps = better. Regardless, in this set of RNG I took quite a bit less damage for the same mobs, while killing much slower.

There are many situations where it wouldn’t be optimal. Toss a healer over, or better haste/attack buffs, maybe even Avatar. That said, an extra hundred dec would likely increase my chances of a slow proc…and I had a ton in the 70-80% range with plenty of health left to chew though.

In hindsight a swap to the Cek after a slow would probably good too. After 30 geos I just didn’t want to keep the tests going.
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