Longing for the Old Days of P1999, Yet Grateful for the Journey

[IzHaN80]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would the server shut down just because it is empty?

What would be the point to keep the server up, costing them money when it has nobody in there to enjoy and play the game?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What would be the point to keep the server up, costing them money when it has nobody in there to enjoy and play the game?

Your answer hinges on the server’s owner valuing player enjoyment. Why do you assume they value player enjoyment so highly? They are not a player. This is not a commercial server. If anything players are a cost not of value.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your answer hinges on the server’s owner valuing player enjoyment. Why do you assume they value player enjoyment so highly? They are not a player. This is not a commercial server. If anything players are a cost not of value.

you only have to lurk in the eqemu discord for like 5 minutes to realize the people who work on this stuff don't give a single solitary fook what the players think/care about, we literally exist to drudge through wayback machine posts to make the database 0.001% more accurate and nothing else

IzHaN80 is like the only person that didn't get this memo like a decade+ ago

[IzHaN80]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you only have to lurk in the eqemu discord for like 5 minutes to realize the people who work on this stuff don't give a single solitary fook what the players think/care about, we literally exist to drudge through wayback machine posts to make the database 0.001% more accurate and nothing else

IzHaN80 is like the only person that didn't get this memo like a decade+ ago

Of course, they didn’t open a server just for their own personal amusement without caring about the players. That’s exactly why rules exist in the first place — to prevent conflicts and keep the server healthy. If they truly didn’t care, the easier approach would be to just ban or kick people and move on, don’t you think? That wouldn’t make much sense.

And I also notice there’s no response to my latest posts on this subject. To me, that’s a clear sign I struck the real issue. Nothing further to add.

[IzHaN80]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your answer hinges on the server’s owner valuing player enjoyment. Why do you assume they value player enjoyment so highly? They are not a player. This is not a commercial server. If anything players are a cost not of value.

What would be the point of opening a NON-COMMERCIAL server, as you said yourself, if you don’t actually care whether people join, play, and enjoy it? Now that’s a good one…

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What would be the point of opening a NON-COMMERCIAL server, as you said yourself, if you don’t actually care whether people join, play, and enjoy it? Now that’s a good one…

They've mentionned a number of times in no uncertain terms they wanted to recreate classic EQ as much as possible and if you don't like it that's not their problem. They've degraded QOL for inconsequential stuff before for the sake of making things classic (like velium block chiseling) so I don't see them doing a 180 on this to make the server more popular.

[Sillyturtle]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What would be the point of opening a NON-COMMERCIAL server, as you said yourself, if you don’t actually care whether people join, play, and enjoy it? Now that’s a good one…

Because Nilbog and Rogean literally do this because they want to make an accurate representation of EQ in the era they've chosen. They don't care how many people play. Never have.

You don't get it.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Sillyturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because Nilbog and Rogean literally do this because they want to make an accurate representation of EQ in the era they've chosen. They don't care how many people play. Never have.

You don't get it.

/List wasn't Classic.

Rooting dragons isn't Classic either but it could be argued that by rooting dragons current gameplay is closer to the classic experience. However, if we're to use that as a design philosophy then why have they allowed solo and small group farming of hate or massive cleric bot armies? Who can look at a raid consisting of 20+ clerics with identical gear named healbotone healbotwtwo healbotthree and so fourth and think "Yep, that brings me back to the Classic days".

Racing is an interesting phenomenon too.

[IzHaN80]

Originally Posted by Sillyturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because Nilbog and Rogean literally do this because they want to make an accurate representation of EQ in the era they've chosen. They don't care how many people play. Never have.

You don't get it.

Right, because all that really matters to him is a “representation” of what EQ was in that era, who cares about the players, right? In fact, who even needs players at all? I’m sure without them, the server would still be a beautiful little “representation.”

Your comment makes zero sense. To begin with, the guy actually went through the trouble of creating the server, then added rules, improved them over time, and even implemented non-classic systems just to prevent people from killing each other over camped items, XP bonuses, events, yeah, clearly the playerbase doesn’t matter at all. lol

So please, stop with the nonsense already…

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, because all that really matters to him is a “representation” of what EQ was in that era, who cares about the players, right? In fact, who even needs players at all? I’m sure without them, the server would still be a beautiful little “representation.”

Your comment makes zero sense. To begin with, the guy actually went through the trouble of creating the server, then added rules, improved them over time, and even implemented non-classic systems just to prevent people from killing each other over camped items, XP bonuses, events, yeah, clearly the playerbase doesn’t matter at all. lol

So please, stop with the nonsense already…

Many of these changes are to make the players more manageable for CSR, not for player enjoyment.

P99 doesn’t have classic paid staff so has to make compromises on CSR policy, such as increased automation in enforcement of classic csr policy like turn taking / sharing / griefing / etc.