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Old 09-04-2025, 12:25 PM
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Another post from Quarm people talking about how it's better than P99 and P99 needs to do what Quarm does?

No thanks.

The low population here currently isn't because of Quarm. It's because the servers are old and mudflated. If they merged tomorrow and launched a new server, the new server's pop would be a couple thousand people. People are just playing Quarm because there's no new P99 alternative right now.
It does a lot of things better than P99, especially when it comes to quality-of-life improvements. The camera feels smoother, you can see your XP per hour, you can actually track your DoT damage — and the list could go on for a while. These are just quality-of-life changes that don’t lower the difficulty of the game, but they make the journey less painful and a bit more enjoyable.

But I never said it was better than P99 — it’s just different. And to be honest, I think the people defending this model as if it were the only way are actually the ones killing the servers.

I feel like you didn’t really pay attention to what I wrote before — or maybe ChatGPT didn’t capture my feelings properly when translating. What I meant is this: P99 needs a new server. A fresh start. No merging. Why would anyone want to merge servers? What’s the point? What’s needed is a new cycle. Bring people back, make them level together again, group up, and experience that old vanilla classic feeling all over.

Like I said earlier, Quarm is nice — but it will never be P1999. I grew up on this server, I love it deeply. But when I return and see it empty, when I see the same guild dominating the same raids, when there’s nothing fun or new left to do… yeah, I think it’s time for P1999 to do something about it.
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Old 09-04-2025, 12:43 PM
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What I meant is this: P99 needs a new server. A fresh start. No merging. Why would anyone want to merge servers? What’s the point?
The point of merging servers is to get a fresh server. The staff's plan, since before Green ever existed, has always been to merge Green into Blue, and then start a fresh ("Green 2.0") server.
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Old 09-04-2025, 12:46 PM
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The point of merging servers is to get a fresh server. The staff's plan, since before Green ever existed, has always been to merge Green into Blue, and then start a fresh ("Green 2.0") server.
I feel that if you merge servers, people will just stay on the merged server and won’t move to a new one. A lot of players (with all due respect) are “poopsockers” who simply can’t let go of their toons, like their entire life depends on them.

What we actually need is a way to force people to move away from their old toons. Merging only creates more problems: deleted characters, messy name conflicts, and a ton of extra work for the devs. Too many variables, and none of them really fix the issue.
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Old 09-04-2025, 02:14 PM
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I feel that if you merge servers, people will just stay on the merged server and won’t move to a new one. A lot of players (with all due respect) are “poopsockers” who simply can’t let go of their toons, like their entire life depends on them.

What we actually need is a way to force people to move away from their old toons. Merging only creates more problems: deleted characters, messy name conflicts, and a ton of extra work for the devs. Too many variables, and none of them really fix the issue.
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Really? Because literally hundreds of people left Blue to go play on Green when it launched. You're entirely wrong.
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Old 09-14-2025, 03:11 AM
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I feel that if you merge servers, people will just stay on the merged server and won’t move to a new one. A lot of players (with all due respect) are “poopsockers” who simply can’t let go of their toons, like their entire life depends on them.

What we actually need is a way to force people to move away from their old toons. Merging only creates more problems: deleted characters, messy name conflicts, and a ton of extra work for the devs. Too many variables, and none of them really fix the issue.
Look what happened to blue when green dropped. It never recovered.
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Old 09-14-2025, 06:51 AM
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Look what happened to blue when green dropped. It never recovered.
I think there are a few reasons for that.

1) The future of blue was and remains unknown. Will it one day become merged or will it forever be a lonely server and share the fate of red? I wouldn't mind starting up a character on Blue if i knew the servers would be merged

2) Blue initially had the advantage of more content but as Green progressed and Green had the advantage of novelty. As Green lost its novelty it also gained more content and in the end Green is just a newer and otherwise equivalent version of Blue. There's no reason to play Blue unless you're already heavily invested.

3) Quarm
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Old 09-04-2025, 02:12 PM
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It does a lot of things better than P99, especially when it comes to quality-of-life improvements. The camera feels smoother, you can see your XP per hour, you can actually track your DoT damage — and the list could go on for a while. These are just quality-of-life changes that don’t lower the difficulty of the game, but they make the journey less painful and a bit more enjoyable.

But I never said it was better than P99 — it’s just different. And to be honest, I think the people defending this model as if it were the only way are actually the ones killing the servers.

I feel like you didn’t really pay attention to what I wrote before — or maybe ChatGPT didn’t capture my feelings properly when translating. What I meant is this: P99 needs a new server. A fresh start. No merging. Why would anyone want to merge servers? What’s the point? What’s needed is a new cycle. Bring people back, make them level together again, group up, and experience that old vanilla classic feeling all over.

Like I said earlier, Quarm is nice — but it will never be P1999. I grew up on this server, I love it deeply. But when I return and see it empty, when I see the same guild dominating the same raids, when there’s nothing fun or new left to do… yeah, I think it’s time for P1999 to do something about it.
Then you don't like classic EQ, and that's fine. Quarm exists for you. It's super annoying when people make posts that are essentially "I don't like classic EQ, and I get the non-classic EQ experience on another server, but for no reason P99 should mimic that experience even though I can find that experience on this other server."

We don't need that here.

Also, the only thing P99 "needs to do about it" is to launch a new server. Which the staff will do when they have the time and energy. If you want to absolutely kill P99 forever, that would be by implementing Quarm changes here.
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Old 09-04-2025, 09:14 PM
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Then you don't like classic EQ, and that's fine. Quarm exists for you. It's super annoying when people make posts that are essentially "I don't like classic EQ, and I get the non-classic EQ experience on another server, but for no reason P99 should mimic that experience even though I can find that experience on this other server."

We don't need that here.

Also, the only thing P99 "needs to do about it" is to launch a new server. Which the staff will do when they have the time and energy. If you want to absolutely kill P99 forever, that would be by implementing Quarm changes here.
Don’t be fooled—this isn’t exactly classic EQ either. If it were truly classic, one of the longest-running debates here would look very different: Enchanters simply wouldn’t be this dominant. Back in the day, playing a caster was a lot tougher. On Quarm, for instance, casters faces real challenges, while here you can see Enchanters soloing entire zones with little risk or spellcasters having barely any penalties, they don't get interrupt as often as they should be, etc... Channeling here is a joke.

Of course, there are many other examples I could mention, but I think the key point is that this version doesn’t really reflect how difficult classic EQ actually was for spellcasters for example.
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