Discussion: Loot and Scoot (LnS)

[Arshis]

Tallon Zek
Loot and Scoot is a player rule. Not all guilds/players honored this rule and for good reason. (see more @ A) The only time I had ever seem a GM intervene with Pandemonium's (a Tallon Zek Guild) obsessive corpse camping habits were during POP when we started to take shifts corpse camping 'notable' players in opposing guilds. We literally camped corpses of singular players until they rotted, in return officers got yelled at by GM's (threats to disband the guild were made) and the persons corpse who was camped was refunded their equipment. I remember being corpse camped for 3 days myself, petitioning just wasn't something people did back then because we know GM's wouldn't respond. I know Pandemonium never let guilds Loot and Scoot because they would just loot up and come back in and attack us during a Boss encounter.

I think overall a majority of Tallon honored the LnS rule. If you didn't want to get corpse camped you didn't stay in zones with people you knew didn't honor the system. If Linse was in the crypt you didn't go into the crypt unless you were ready to be camped for 40 hours during his farming binge.

A) People don't always keep their promise to loot and scoot. In fact from my experience about 30% of the people would come back and jump you anyways.


Off Topic
Btw Did anyone else feel like GM's vanished around Mid-Kunark on Tallon Zek? We started to see new GMs the kind that just cycled though 10 servers a day. So they had no idea how to deal with the PVPers. hehe

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Arshis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Off Topic
Btw Did anyone else feel like GM's vanished around Mid-Kunark on Tallon Zek? We started to see new GMs the kind that just cycled though 10 servers a day. So they had no idea how to deal with the PVPers. hehe

We always had a guide try to revitalize the server, they usually gave up after a month or two and had a breakdown lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*edit* meant we had a "head guide" show up from time to time trying to fix the server.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ask Sirken how much of his time was consumed with idiotic PnP shit. It burned out several GMs, and eventually the corrupt GM / favoritism / frivilious petitions got him too (if I am not mistaken, I seem to remember him quitting but was done with VZ/TZ at that time).

Sorry bro, but you are confused.

It's becoming more obvious with each thread and post that there is a strong-willed hard-deaded desire to ignore the experimentation that was live, and ignore the re-experiment that was vztz and launch a new re-re-experiment called red99, where we will rehash the exact same stuff that we did 10 years ago times 4, and 3 years ago, 2 years ago and last year. We don't learn, we just perpetually re-experiment because we are too dumb to remember what has already happened 7+ times.

We are so talented and we are beginning to believe all the wonderful things they say about us. We can do no wrong, and all of our ideas are the right ones even though they have already failed 7 times in a row.

The irony that we are bluebies who are considering bluebie ideas for a RED server is lost on us. If we aren't smart enough to look at history, then we surely aren't smart enough to discern between red and blue. You shouldn't expect so much from us.

I'm setting things up now and making plans now on how many different ways i can say "i told you so". Look for them in 6 months or so.

[Bardalicious]

Nobody cares about your opinion Macken. Perhaps if you didn't present yourself as such an ass-clown that may be different, but it is what it is.

You tote your opinions as fact, and it's outright laughable because everyone sees it for what it is. If you EQEmu PVP Rejects were so enlightened about the longevity of a PVP server, I guess they wouldn't historically fail within a MONTH every single time they open.

Someone like you is happy to spend his time PVPing only when an opportunity to gank another player presents itself, and the other 90% of the time you are talking about how ganking that player made you a boss. Some of us desire more than that. A PVP server needs a balance between PVP and PVE to have any chance of survival longer than a month. Playing VZTZ incarnations on EQEMU does not make you an expert on what is healthy for a PVP server by a long shot. Not to mention the fact that Rogean has outright stated that this is a PVP version of Project 1999, not just another VZTZ. Your egotistical tendencies merely led you to assume that they would cater to your childish needs.

Stop trying to shit up another PVP box. You've had plenty of them to enjoy yourself on already. Now it's time for the grown ups that desire more than epeen sword fighting to make a real PVP server that will last longer than a month.

[Macken]

You still aren't banned yet?

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still aren't banned yet?

I rest my case. You don't do yourself any favors, you know. And yet you wonder why nobody will listen to you.

[Macken]

hax, post hax?

Whats a bardalicious got to do to get banned around here?