Enchanter is #1 solo class? What is this madness

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizard without big nukes: lmao

Mage without pets: Oh dear god

A wizard is literally mage without pets

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A wizard is literally mage without pets

Except with roots, snares, stuns, and ports/evacs.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except with roots, snares, stuns, and ports/evacs.

Wizard also gets eye and sword pets! So a magician without pets defacto couldn't be a wizard.

I had fun scumming 59 on my wiz in KC using the wizard pet. Everyone commented on how fun it was to see it in use, no one complained or told me to put it away (even we all knew it was bad). Ironically the mage summon items make the wiz sword pet far more viable thanks to reclaim energy.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A wizard is literally mage without pets

Wizards at least have their established niches of raid DPS, easy quad leveling, and ports/TPs.

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except with roots, snares, stuns, and ports/evacs.

The funny thing about Wizards and Mages is you could combine the classes - literally make a "Wizard Mage" that had access to every single spell of each class - and it still would not solo as well as an Enchanter (or even a charming Necro, for that matter). That's how ridiculously busted charm is in EQ. In fact, you could combine Wizard/Mage/Cleric in a single class, and while it would probably level faster than the Enchanter, it would still struggle to keep up with what a 60 Enchanter can solo due to high-end mob scaling. The combination of charm, slow, haste, and top-of-the-line CC in a single class - at least as is currently implemented on P1999 - creates the most preposterously overpowered class in the history of MMOs, one that should have rightfully been nerfed into oblivion years ago.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's how ridiculously busted charm is in EQ.

No, it's not. It's how ridiculously busted charm is on Project 1999.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it's not. It's how ridiculously busted charm is on Project 1999.

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[Goregasmic]

Ench animation is not weak yet not strong. It is mid 40s so against high level targets it won't land much and it will get hit hard. It quads for ~210 and has like 3khp. The damage isn't too bad once hasted but 3khp will have you chain rune on harder fights, not super effective.

Very nice to have but it isn't what will put you on the solo artist leaderboard, a charmed pet is almost always better even if more of a hassle. It nearly solo'd ghost of kindle (52) but a max level krup knight would probably require a lot of help to keep it alive, at that point a torched dar is much less trouble even if charm may break. And yeah you could chain animations but you'd have to rebuff them and if the mob summons you'd have to mez it first, not sure if that is less of a PITA.

Most tough charm fights hang on if charm will break or not, basically all RNG. Shamans seem a lot more laid back like snaggles said.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ench animation is not weak yet not strong. It is mid 40s so against high level targets it won't land much and it will get hit hard. It quads for ~210 and has like 3khp. The damage isn't too bad once hasted but 3khp will have you chain rune on harder fights, not super effective.

Very nice to have but it isn't what will put you on the solo artist leaderboard, a charmed pet is almost always better even if more of a hassle. It nearly solo'd ghost of kindle (52) but a max level krup knight would probably require a lot of help to keep it alive, at that point a torched dar is much less trouble even if charm may break. And yeah you could chain animations but you'd have to rebuff them and if the mob summons you'd have to mez it first, not sure if that is less of a PITA.

Most tough charm fights hang on if charm will break or not, basically all RNG. Shamans seem a lot more laid back like snaggles said.

Yea I don’t think anyone is arguing that the animation is superior to charm it was more of a question of what is the animation capable of. Sometimes it’s nice to just throw it in for easier fights or trash if you want to not have to think about breaks or doing something else at the same time. It’s not hard to kill summoning mobs with just mez and resummon as needed just gets annoying as it takes some time to rebuild aggro pet aggro is kinda broke on this server iirc. Having an epic really helps for rehaste on those fresh pets and saving a spell slot.