Bring back the Dark Men of Odus

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by CrazyPro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not assigning new meaning, I'm pointing out that people could interpret it in problematic ways. Saying "dark men" isn't automatically racist, I never said it was, but given the context of it being the guild name for an Erudite-only guild, why would you possibly want to put what could be seen as a racial descriptor in the guild name?

Who cares about skin color? Just call them Erudites. <Erudites of Odus>, easy. This interpretation of the name "Dark Men of Odus" is pretty much the same as if it was called "Black People of Odus", and do you not see how that name could be problematic?

And therein is yet another problem with the argument. Anyone can interpret anything as negative, but that doesn't make them right.

Labeling problematic speech that wasn't problematic was one of the first steps the Leninist party took in controlling the public with setting up communism is Russia in the 20th century.

A little bit of history goes a long way in seeing the same ideological arguments reused today to the same misleading and dangerous effects.

Under your logic why call them Erudites, just call them humans. Scratch that, that's offensive to anyone not human, just call them people.

Scratch that, people is too generic of a term to bipedal creatures, call them entities.


The argument is insane, misleading, and dangerous.


Now since you've admitted that saying Dark isn't racist and has no racist connotation, then you've just admitted there is nothing wrong with the term, and therefore is completely okay to use.

Thank you for at least admitting it.

DMO will be back.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And therein is yet another problem with the argument. Anyone can interpret anything as negative, but that doesn't make them right.

Labeling problematic speech that wasn't problematic was one of the first steps the Leninist party took in controlling the public with setting up communism is Russia in the 20th century.

A little bit of history goes a long way in seeing the same ideological arguments reused today to the same misleading and dangerous effects.

Under your logic why call them Erudites, just call them humans. Scratch that, that's offensive to anyone not human, just call them people.

Scratch that, people is too generic of a term to bipedal creatures, call them entities.


The argument is insane, misleading, and dangerous.


Now since you've admitted that saying Dark isn't racist and has no racist connotation, then you've just admitted there is nothing wrong with the term, and therefore is completely okay to use.

Thank you for at least admitting it.

DMO will be back.

The JBS strongly opposed the Civil Rights Movement and its goals, including desegregation and ending discriminatory practices. They characterized the Civil Rights Movement as a communist plot to divide the country and promote subversion. They specifically opposed the Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education, which mandated school desegregation, and busing for the purpose of school integration.

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The JBS strongly opposed the Civil Rights Movement and its goals, including desegregation and ending discriminatory practices. They characterized the Civil Rights Movement as a communist plot to divide the country and promote subversion. They specifically opposed the Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education, which mandated school desegregation, and busing for the purpose of school integration.

Are you trying to make an argument that a completely voluntary guild system in a video game, should be tied to real life politics in a mandatory public school system?

Are you saying that there can't be a difference between the lore in a fantasy game and real life as well?


Is your intention in your writing saying you have difficulty separating a fantasy world base on McQuaid and friends DND campaign settings over the years from actual real life?

Please explain.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you trying to make an argument that a completely voluntary guild system in a video game, should be tied to real life politics in a mandatory public school system?

Are you saying that there can't be a difference between the lore in a fantasy game and real life as well?


Is your intention in your writing saying you have difficulty separating a fantasy world base on McQuaid and friends DND campaign settings over the years from actual real life?

Please explain.

Nirgon is a Bircher and your guild leader.

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon is a Bircher and your guild leader.

This is the second time you've refused to engage with the argument and have resorted to inane comments or ad hominem.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the second time you've refused to engage with the argument and have resorted to inane comments or ad hominem.

Inane comments. Okey dokey. I wonder if this has a meaning that can be Googled?

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't even have to check the early life section anymore on wikipedia

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Inane comments. Okey dokey. I wonder if this has a meaning that can be Googled?

Don't worry, I'm patient. I'll wait till you find a valid argument.

[CrazyPro]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now since you've admitted that saying Dark isn't racist

That goes without saying and I shouldn't have even had to tell you. I think I'm done with this discussion, it's not going anywhere. G'day.