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Old 07-21-2025, 02:36 PM
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You're doing it wrong. Join the guild first, and then you can get a full suit of SS armor for free (well, for the cost of showing up to a few raids).

Meanwhile, guilds don't care what items you have. Ok, that's not exactly true, some will want you to have raid gear, but no one will require raid gear to join (you'll just be limited in some way until you get raiding gear, eg. you won't be able to bid on the very best items).
Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:38 PM
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Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.
If you can't commit to a scheduled HoT session how are you ever going to raid?
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:54 PM
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If you can't commit to a scheduled HoT session how are you ever going to raid?
I can raid or help with whatever when I'm on but I will not often be able to make it to most scheduled events depending on timing. I'd really like to finish my epic but I don't think it is ever happening but still more chances for it to happen guilded than... unguilded. I've adjusted my expectations accordingly and I plan to be upfront about this. Worst case scenario I'll stay solo and end up with a zlandi heart and SS MQs which I'm fine with anyway.
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Old 07-23-2025, 09:38 AM
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Simple guide to gearing a character...Full set of Skyshrine (HoT) Armor, 2x velium diamond rings, 2x velium BD bracelets, 2x Electrum Black Sapphire earrings.

Thats pretty much any toon I gear regardless of class, the main variety is shoulders, back, waist, primary, secondary, or range slots. The class page on the wiki has great lists of idea gear per era for these slots and you can target the best available/attainable items from there.
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Old 07-23-2025, 10:08 AM
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Simple guide to gearing a character...Full set of Skyshrine (HoT) Armor, 2x velium diamond rings, 2x velium BD bracelets, 2x Electrum Black Sapphire earrings.

Thats pretty much any toon I gear regardless of class, the main variety is shoulders, back, waist, primary, secondary, or range slots. The class page on the wiki has great lists of idea gear per era for these slots and you can target the best available/attainable items from there.
Waist or back are usually haste dump slots too (probably not for enchanter admittedly) so that is another 1 less slot to worry about too!
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Old 07-23-2025, 10:37 AM
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Waist or back are usually haste dump slots too (probably not for enchanter admittedly)
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Old 07-21-2025, 03:28 PM
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Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.
I don't mean this to sound condescending, but you sound to me like every other non-raider I've ever known ... myself included. We all imagine raiding to be bigger and harder than it really is.

(Proof: I farmed plat for Loramin's epic, and then asked the forum to help me, back in 2015, so I wouldn't have to join a guild: that's how anti-raiding I was. Now I laugh at how naive I was.)

I guarantee that if you join a guild and start raiding, you will quickly realize that you were a fool for ever paying for anything you can get by just showing up to a raid. Why spend X hours to acquire something that you can get in a fraction of X? It makes no sense.
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Old 07-21-2025, 05:14 PM
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I don't mean this to sound condescending, but you sound to me like every other non-raider I've ever known ... myself included. We all imagine raiding to be bigger and harder than it really is.

(Proof: I farmed plat for Loramin's epic, and then asked the forum to help me, back in 2015, so I wouldn't have to join a guild: that's how anti-raiding I was. Now I laugh at how naive I was.)

I guarantee that if you join a guild and start raiding, you will quickly realize that you were a fool for ever paying for anything you can get by just showing up to a raid. Why spend X hours to acquire something that you can get in a fraction of X? It makes no sense.
I've raided a fair bit back in 2001-2003 on live. I assume guilds in general would be a lot better at it today.

My only point is if I wanted a frostweaver embroidered cloak, it would be much faster for me to farm 18k than be there for the next dain kill assuming no one wants one and it drops first try. But point taken, unguilded I have zero opportunity to loot one... or all the no drop raid gear.
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Old 07-21-2025, 07:30 PM
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My only point is if I wanted a frostweaver embroidered cloak, it would be much faster for me to farm 18k than be there for the next dain kill assuming no one wants one and it drops first try.
I guess it depends. In my guild, the last one "sold" for 220 DKP. Each kill varies, but major targets (stuff like Dain, ToV dragons, etc.) are worth about 20 DKP, so you'd need about 11 such kills for a cloak.

I'd imagine you could attend eleven raids in a few weeks, then go to to Dain raids for a few weeks, faster than you can earn 18k (and find a seller) ... but maybe not if you are good at plat farming?

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... or all the no drop raid gear.
There are a few better NO DROP options: https://wiki.project1999.com/Special.../Back/AllItems. But also, there's the Shroud of the Dar Brood. It has similar stats (but no Charisma), and it only "sold" for 20DKP at the last Zlandi.

You could join a major raid guild, go on just two raids (anything decent and Zlandicar ) and walk away with a cloak nearly as good as the Dain one.
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Old 07-22-2025, 07:40 PM
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I guess it depends. In my guild, the last one "sold" for 220 DKP. Each kill varies, but major targets (stuff like Dain, ToV dragons, etc.) are worth about 20 DKP, so you'd need about 11 such kills for a cloak.

I'd imagine you could attend eleven raids in a few weeks, then go to to Dain raids for a few weeks, faster than you can earn 18k (and find a seller) ... but maybe not if you are good at plat farming?

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There are a few better NO DROP options: https://wiki.project1999.com/Special.../Back/AllItems. But also, there's the Shroud of the Dar Brood. It has similar stats (but no Charisma), and it only "sold" for 20DKP at the last Zlandi.

You could join a major raid guild, go on just two raids (anything decent and Zlandicar ) and walk away with a cloak nearly as good as the Dain one.
Depends, been farming chardok lately. Sometimes I make like... 2-3k in a couple hours and sometimes like 15k depending on RNG. Did frenzy for 2h sessions a couple nights a week and made about 40k a few months ago, not bad for leveling money. I guess it really depends on the raid item you're going for. That FT5 earring is probably out of reach for a long time. But yeah, I picked the solo farming king class so it is a bit different for us.

Yeah I planed on scouting the wiki for the no drop stuff I should start looking for.
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