Claw of Lightning or Rogue Epic for offhand?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

According to my DPS calculator, a Rogue with 255 STR, 100% Haste, and 100 ATK base against a mob around level 60 (non-raid mob) does the following DPS:

1. Vyemm's Fang Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 80.5 DPS without Backstab.

2. Vyamm's Fang Primary + Ragebringer Secondary = 77 DPS without backstab. This inlcudes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

3. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 72 DPS without backstab. This includes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

You'll want to swap Ragebringer to your primary hand for backstabs if you are using Vyemm's fang.

Ragebringer + Claw of Lighting is probably the cheapest DKP-wise. It is up to you how much you want that ~10% autoattack DPS boost by getting Fang + Claw.

Personally I think having Ragebringer in Secondary is too much work to swap it back to Primary for backstabs every time. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary is my suggestion.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

According to my DPS calculator, a Rogue with 255 STR, 100% Haste, and 100 ATK base against a mob around level 60 (non-raid mob) does the following DPS:

1. Vyemm's Fang Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 80.5 DPS without Backstab.

2. Vyamm's Fang Primary + Ragebringer Secondary = 77 DPS without backstab. This inlcudes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

3. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 72 DPS without backstab. This includes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

You'll want to swap Ragebringer to your primary hand for backstabs if you are using Vyemm's fang.

Ragebringer + Claw of Lighting is probably the cheapest DKP-wise. It is up to you how much you want that ~10% autoattack DPS boost by getting Fang + Claw.

Personally I think having Ragebringer in Secondary is too much work to swap it back to Primary for backstabs every time. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary is my suggestion.

OP, please ignore this self-absorbed narcissist and the useless information he adds to every thread. He's proven to be wrong in all of his shitty theories, but he won't stop trying to spread the shit to every single thread. I don't even know what it means to have Ragebringer in secondary and weapon swap. That's not how it works at all.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP, please ignore this self-absorbed narcissist and the useless information he adds to every thread. He's proven to be wrong in all of his shitty theories, but he won't stop trying to spread the shit to every single thread. I don't even know what it means to have Ragebringer in secondary and weapon swap. That's not how it works at all.

Can you please stop derailing threads with off-topic nonsense? Nobody cares about your baseless opinions. They have been proven wrong multiple times, you are just spamming threads.

Did you read the title of the thread? OP was thinking about using Ragebringer in offhand. If they do that, they would want to swap Ragebringer to primary hand for backstabs, which wouldn't be advisable, as I said in my first post.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP was thinking about using Ragebringer in offhand. If they do that, they would want to swap Ragebringer to primary hand for backstabs

This is the most ridiculous thing you've ever suggested. Nobody in the history of vyemm's fang has ever done this.

Quit spreading your bullshit to every fucking thread.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the most ridiculous thing you've ever suggested. Nobody in the history of vyemm's fang has ever done this.

Quit spreading your bullshit to every fucking thread.

You really need to learn how to read. I didn't say OP should use Vyemm's Fang in Primary and Ragebringer in secondary. I advised against it, because it is easier to swap Ragebringer with Fang if Ragebringer isn't in your secondary hand.

You are just trying to attack me in every thread, and are making any excuse you can, even when it is made up.

Everybody can read what I said and see you are just making things up. Why do this?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really need to learn how to read. I didn't say OP should use Vyemm's Fang in Primary and Ragebringer in secondary. I advised against it, because it is easier to swap Ragebringer with Fang if Ragebringer isn't in your secondary hand.

You are just trying to attack me in every thread, and are making any excuse you can, even when it is made up.

And you really need to learn how to STFU. You've contributed nothing to this thread except by muddying the waters by even bringing up using ragebringer off hand and swapping it to main hand for backstabs.

Why do you insist on spreading your bullshit nonsensical theories to every fucking thread? You are such a useless piece of human excrement. Waste of fucking oxygen.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And you really need to learn how to STFU. You've contributed nothing to this thread except by muddying the waters by even bringing up using ragebringer off hand and swapping it to main hand for backstabs.

Why do you insist on spreading your bullshit nonsensical theories to every fucking thread? You are such a useless piece of human excrement. Waste of fucking oxygen.

Nobody cares about your opinions of me. Nobody wants you to spam threads over and over with obvious lies. Just quit while you are behind. Reposting the DPS numbers so OP can make an informed decision on their DKP spending. As I said in my first post, I wouldn't advise using Ragebringer in offhand:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

According to my DPS calculator, a Rogue with 255 STR, 100% Haste, and 100 ATK base against a mob around level 60 (non-raid mob) does the following DPS:

1. Vyemm's Fang Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 80.5 DPS without Backstab.

2. Vyamm's Fang Primary + Ragebringer Secondary = 77 DPS without backstab. This inlcudes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

3. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 72 DPS without backstab. This includes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

You'll want to swap Ragebringer to your primary hand for backstabs if you are using Vyemm's fang.

Ragebringer + Claw of Lighting is probably the cheapest DKP-wise. It is up to you how much you want that ~10% autoattack DPS boost by getting Fang + Claw.

Personally I think having Ragebringer in Secondary is too much work to swap it back to Primary for backstabs every time. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary is my suggestion.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And nobody wants to hear about your useless DPS calculator! The rogue BIS setup is long established, with or without your help (definitely without). You're not contributing anything to this thread by spreading your misinformation. Your DPS calculator is wrong. You are wrong about ragebringer offhand. You are not good at this game. You know nothing about rogues. Go away.

I have not spread misinformation. You are just lying about me and my DPS calculator. Replying here so you hopefully stop spamming the thread. Nobody wants to hear your unhinged rantings with no basis in reality. They didn't work in the last few threads you spammed. They won't work here either.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you pretend that you know anything about the game when you clearly don't? Why do you need to insert your nonsense into every single thread? Your posts are like intrusive advertisement. People don't want to see advertisements for viagra or diabetes medicine as much as they don't want to hear about your DPS calculator.

I am sorry you don't understand how forums work. There are other people on these forums besides yourself, and they can post. Feel free to code review my DPS calculator at any time. It's open source. You haven't done it, so your opinion on my calculator is baseless. It is clear you are just trolling, and you keep ruining your reputation by trolling.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and the most terrible advice I've ever seen.

Samoht somehow thinks showing that the autoattack DPS for Fang + Claw is higher than Ragebringer + Claw of Lightning is... bad advise? Samoht thinks telling OP to use Ragebringer for backstabs is... bad advise? Not sure how that works.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

okay, then definitely use claw off hand and swap in ragebringer main hand to backstab

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are such a useless piece of human excrement. Waste of fucking oxygen.

Yes he is

[Dundrige]

I got a locustlure from a scryer last night and wow it's fun hitting that fast in primary... switch to my Chokidai fang for backstabs. & I'm about a third of the way done with the epic quest. So excited to use that for my secondary.

[Dundrige]

Got my epic tonight so I will now dual wield with a locustlure in primary and epic in secondary i will report back later in the week if I'm happy with the choice or not