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Old 07-16-2025, 07:59 PM
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No, they wouldn't. There was no packet sniffing they did of 2000 era EQ servers, since they don't have a fucking time machine.

All their packet sniffing came from Alkabor, a PLANES OF POWER era server. What do you not understand about this still?

You are wrong. Stop trying to argue that you're not.
I don't think there were any changes that affected melee damage output in Luclin or PoP.

A level 60 in PoP with no AAs hitting a mob should do the same damage as they would in velious.
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Old 07-16-2025, 08:02 PM
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I don't think there were any changes that affected melee damage output in Luclin or PoP.

A level 60 in PoP with no AAs hitting a mob should do the same damage as they would in velious.
The base code for melee is indeed quite simple. All of the extra stuff like AA's don't directly change the base code, it usually just modifies the results, like adding extra damage or whatever. I don't think they did sweeping changes to the base melee code between classic and PoP.
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I don't think there were any changes that affected melee damage output in Luclin or PoP.
I'm not sure about those eras, except there was a Monk nerf during that time, but there were changes pre-Luclin.
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I took another look at Zuranthium's evidence he posted:

http://web.archive.org/web/200107211...23&t=000082&p=

This was posted on Sept 8, 2000, which was before the Twig Nerf. That was Sept 19, 2000:

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000919.html

The poster is a 46 Warrior, with a damage bonus of 7. That is the same damage bonus as P99/EQEMU code for a level 46. The pattern of most hits showing up at (9 * 2) + 7 = 25 is also what P99/EQEMU code does. This is because there is a chance to only use the Weapon Damage * (D20 Roll / 10) damage value. You do not always apply the percentage roll that can adjust your damage to be higher than Weapon Damage * 2.

If the damage bonus or damage formula was different from P99/EQEMU while Twig was available, it wasn't different a week before the nerf. You'd have to show a point in time where the damage bonus and/or formula was different from P99/EQEMU code while twig was not nerfed.
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